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    Default Dual DKEs: KDE + GNOME - can it be done?

    I'm running KDE on SUSE 12.3. I was wondering if it is possible to install GNOME alongside and have the option of running either DKE at login. Or is this inadvisable? What is the alternative, install SUSE to another partition and run GNOME there? I love KDE, but a couple things are just a little dated. Also, what's a nice, but quick, alternative for Kickoff?

    I'm really loving openSUSE (after a couple preliminary hiccups). Honestly, of all the distributions I've recently tried (Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Gentoo, Pear and even FreeBSD), SUSE is my favourite! Debian is nice too, but still a ways behind. Manjaro looks clean, I might give that a run this week.

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    Default Re: Dual DKEs: KDE + GNOME - can it be done?

    frustration wrote:
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    > I'm running KDE on SUSE 12.3. I was wondering if it is possible to
    > install GNOME alongside and have the option of running either DKE at
    > login. Or is this inadvisable? What is the alternative, install SUSE to
    > another partition and run GNOME there? I love KDE, but a couple things
    > are just a little dated. Also, what's a nice, but quick, alternative for
    > Kickoff?
    >
    > I'm really loving openSUSE (after a couple preliminary hiccups).
    > Honestly, of all the distributions I've recently tried (Fedora, Debian,
    > Ubuntu, Mint, Gentoo, Pear and even FreeBSD), SUSE is my favourite!
    > Debian is nice too, but still a ways behind. Manjaro looks clean, I
    > might give that a run this week.
    >
    >


    It is possible to run "n" number of desktops(kde,icewn,gnome,e17,qt
    desktop etc) simultaneously provided they are installed the right way.

    Using pattern based install is the best way to do it

    to install gnome try and run the below command

    Code:
    su -
    zypper in patterns-openSUSE-gnome
    If the above command tries to remove kdm or something terminate the
    installation as kdm is the login management system for KDE

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    Default Re: Dual DKEs: KDE + GNOME - can it be done?

    Thanks, vazhavandan. The reason I made the thread is because I tried your suggestion, albeit using YAST > patterns, and it wouldn't do it without removing KDE so I figured asking the community would help. I'm assuming you haven't done it yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frustration View Post
    The reason I made the thread is because I tried your suggestion, albeit using YAST > patterns, and it wouldn't do it without removing KDE so I figured asking the community would help. I'm assuming you haven't done it yourself?
    I think it only wants to remove something like "kde-pure". Sorry, I don't have the exact name.

    Removing that is harmless. I don't think any actual software is removed.

    I do it with install from the DVD. I routinely install KDE, Gnome, XFCE and LXDE. They all work.

    I mostly use KDE, and occasionally experiment with the others. However, settings that you make in one desktop can affect other desktops, though usually not in a serious way.
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    On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 04:46:02 +0000, frustration wrote:

    > Thanks, vazhavandan. The reason I made the thread is because I tried
    > your suggestion, albeit using YAST > patterns, and it wouldn't do it
    > without removing KDE so I figured asking the community would help. I'm
    > assuming you haven't done it yourself?


    Yes, it can be done - if you tell us what specific error messages you got
    when you tried to do it, someone might be able to help you determine why
    you're having trouble with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    I think it only wants to remove something like "kde-pure". Sorry, I don't have the exact name.

    Removing that is harmless. I don't think any actual software is removed.

    I do it with install from the DVD. I routinely install KDE, Gnome, XFCE and LXDE. They all work.

    I mostly use KDE, and occasionally experiment with the others. However, settings that you make in one desktop can affect other desktops, though usually not in a serious way.
    You're right. It wants to uninstall patterns-openSUSE-ked4_pure-12.3.7.10.1.x86_64 . Are you positive? I would hate to uninstall it only to have desktop problems, but if you're certain I will give it a shot

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 04:46:02 +0000, frustration wrote:

    > Thanks, vazhavandan. The reason I made the thread is because I tried
    > your suggestion, albeit using YAST > patterns, and it wouldn't do it
    > without removing KDE so I figured asking the community would help. I'm
    > assuming you haven't done it yourself?


    Yes, it can be done - if you tell us what specific error messages you got
    when you tried to do it, someone might be able to help you determine why
    you're having trouble with it.

    Jim
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    Thanks, Jim. Here is a screenshot of the error I encounter:



    What do you think?

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    On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 09:26:02 +0000, frustration wrote:

    > nrickert;2592200 Wrote:
    >> I think it only wants to remove something like "kde-pure". Sorry, I
    >> don't have the exact name.
    >>
    >> Removing that is harmless. I don't think any actual software is
    >> removed.
    >>
    >> I do it with install from the DVD. I routinely install KDE, Gnome,
    >> XFCE and LXDE. They all work.
    >>
    >> I mostly use KDE, and occasionally experiment with the others.
    >> However,
    >> settings that you make in one desktop can affect other desktops, though
    >> usually not in a serious way.

    >
    > You're right. It wants to uninstall
    > patterns-openSUSE-ked4_pure-12.3.7.10.1.x86_64 . Are you positive? I
    > would hate to uninstall it only to have desktop problems, but if you're
    > certain I will give it a shot
    >
    > hendersj;2592206 Wrote:
    >> On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 04:46:02 +0000, frustration wrote:
    >>
    >> > Thanks, vazhavandan. The reason I made the thread is because I tried
    >> > your suggestion, albeit using YAST > patterns, and it wouldn't do it
    >> > without removing KDE so I figured asking the community would help.
    >> > I'm assuming you haven't done it yourself?

    >>
    >> Yes, it can be done - if you tell us what specific error messages you
    >> got when you tried to do it, someone might be able to help you
    >> determine why you're having trouble with it.
    >>
    >> Jim --
    >> Jim Henderson openSUSE Forums Administrator Forum Use Terms &
    >> Conditions at 'openSUSE Forums FAQ' (http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C)

    >
    >
    > Thanks, Jim. Here is a screenshot of the error I encounter:
    >
    > [image: http://s16.postimg.org/e1x1dp5et/Gno..._Conflict.png]
    >
    > What do you think?


    I think you remove the kde4_pure package and try it, and if it doesn't
    work for some reason, you reinstall the kde4_pure package from the
    command-line. It's easy enough to undo the change if it seems to cause a
    problem, but I would be surprised if it did.

    The package in question is actually a pattern package, and the contents
    of that package are text files in the /usr/share/doc directory, so
    removing them won't change any libraries or anything.

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    Default Re: Dual DKEs: KDE + GNOME - can it be done?

    Quote Originally Posted by frustration View Post
    You're right. It wants to uninstall patterns-openSUSE-ked4_pure-12.3.7.10.1.x86_64 . Are you positive? I would hate to uninstall it only to have desktop problems, but if you're certain I will give it a shot
    Yes, give it a shot.

    Checking what is installed here, I do not have "patterns-openSUSE-kde4_pure". That was likely not installed, because I was also installing Gnome.

    KDE works fine here, and is what I mainly use. I don't think you will run into problems.
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