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    It came as a surprise that make and gcc are not installed by default. It only happened to me when I was using Puppy Linux. Why is that?
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    Default Re: make, gcc not installed by default

    Most people won't use "gcc", so it seems a reasonable decision.

    When installing from the DVD, I always choose to install base development. That include gcc, make, and similar basic stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Most people won't use "gcc", so it seems a reasonable decision.

    When installing from the DVD, I always choose to install base development. That include gcc, make, and similar basic stuff.
    Thank you for replying.

    "Most people won't use gcc". How do you know that? Maybe you suppose that the developers read the statistics about how many users actually used gcc. If that's so, then you may be right, but I doubt.
    "When installing from the DVD, I always choose to install base development. That include gcc, make, and similar basic stuff." Well, I did that too, but no gcc, make etc. I really don't know why.

    Even if it's not a big thing to install gcc and make after the base dev install., it's disappointing that the decision to take out gcc and make from the default installation has been made.
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    Well I’ve used openSUSE since 10.1 and it has never in that time included development tools as a default. They are there just not installed by default. But it is really simple to add them soooo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Most people won't use "gcc", so it seems a reasonable decision.
    Maybe not most people, but a pretty good percentage do. Besides, openSUSE is open source, and it would seem natural to have the tools on hand to build your own custom platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    Well I’ve used openSUSE since 10.1 and it has never in that time included development tools as a default. They are there just not installed by default. But it is really simple to add them soooo.
    I can't confirm this. I have used 11.3 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), 11.4 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), 12.1 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), 12.2 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), but 12.3 - not included. I know it's easy to install them, but that's not the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riderplus View Post
    I can't confirm this. I have used 11.3 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), 11.4 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), 12.1 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), 12.2 (gcc and make included in the default inst.), but 12.3 - not included. I know it's easy to install them, but that's not the point.
    You must have opted for this yourself in the oS installation, because as gogalthorp says, they've never been included in the default installation, going back to 10.0 for me.

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    Default Re: make, gcc not installed by default

    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Most people won't use "gcc", so it seems a reasonable decision.

    When installing from the DVD, I always choose to install base development. That include gcc, make, and similar basic stuff.
    So the base development installation includes all that. OK.
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    Default Re: make, gcc not installed by default

    nrickert wrote:
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    > Most people won't use "gcc", so it seems a reasonable decision.
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    > When installing from the DVD, I always choose to install base
    > development. That include gcc, make, and similar basic stuff.
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    People who build packages / compile stuff / may need gcc.
    Why would a normal user whose needs comprises of the following need gcc ?

    *playing songs/videos ,
    *see TV,
    *scan,
    *print
    *browse
    *edit some documents

    Also if a person writes java code for a living, then he/she needs javac
    more than gcc

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    Quote Originally Posted by vazhavandan View Post
    Also if a person writes java code for a living, then he/she needs javac
    more than gcc
    And we have a nice pattern for each user case.
    Code:
    $ sudo zypper search -t pattern devel
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    
    S | Name            | Summary                             | Type  
    --+-----------------+-------------------------------------+--------
    i | devel_C_C++     | C/C++ Development                   | pattern
    i | devel_basis     | Base Development                    | pattern
      | devel_gnome     | GNOME Development                   | pattern
      | devel_ide       | Integrated Development Environments | pattern
      | devel_java      | Java Development                    | pattern
      | devel_kde       | KDE Development                     | pattern
      | devel_kernel    | Linux Kernel Development            | pattern
      | devel_mono      | .NET Development                    | pattern
      | devel_perl      | Perl Development                    | pattern
      | devel_python    | Python Development                  | pattern
      | devel_qt4       | Qt 4 Development                    | pattern
      | devel_rpm_build | RPM Build Environment               | pattern
      | devel_ruby      | Ruby Development                    | pattern
      | devel_tcl       | Tcl/Tk Development                  | pattern
      | devel_web       | Web Development                     | pattern

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