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    Default Window Manager left behind after aborting openSuse 12.3 install

    I was inside Windows 7 and looking into the directory of the Suse 12.3 DVD (4+ Gb) , and I started the program opensuse local.exe, this program install suss from inside Windows. I just wanted to look a Suse without installing it, by the time I realize it was going to be a full install I cancel the install. Now when I boot the laptop I get a Window Manager with a choice of 1. Windows 7 or 2. Opensuse Local. I assume this window is installed in the MBR and I tried to remove it with the Recovery Console but it won't go away. I wonder if anybody can help. Why Suse would go messing with the MBR before is fully installed?

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    On 2013-10-10 22:16, ramarrie wrote:
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    > I was inside Windows 7 and looking into the directory of the Suse 12.3
    > DVD (4+ Gb) , and I started the program opensuse local.exe, this program
    > install suss from inside Windows. I just wanted to look a Suse without
    > installing it,


    That's impossible with the DVD. Instead download the "live" versions
    (gnome or KDE), slightly bigger than a CD, and run them (by booting).
    They run on the CD or USB stick, they don't install anything (unless you
    say so).

    > by the time I realize it was going to be a full install I
    > cancel the install. Now when I boot the laptop I get a Window Manager
    > with a choice of 1. Windows 7 or 2. Opensuse Local. I assume this window
    > is installed in the MBR and I tried to remove it with the Recovery
    > Console but it won't go away. I wonder if anybody can help. Why Suse
    > would go messing with the MBR before is fully installed?


    Most people here install by booting the DVD, we are not familiar with
    that exe program, we don't know what it does. I have heard that it
    modifies booting so that next it boots the DVD instead, hot.


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    Default Re: Window Manager left behind after aborting openSuse 12.3 install

    Quote Originally Posted by ramarrie View Post
    I assume this window is installed in the MBR and I tried to remove it with the Recovery Console but it won't go away. I wonder if anybody can help.
    I can't look over your shoulder to see that screen, but I'm pretty sure that you are seeing the Windows boot manager. And if that's correct, then the MBR has not been touched. There was probably a small "bootsector" file created, and an entry added to the Window BCD (Boot Configuration Data) to give that boot menu choice.

    The small file is small, and can be ignored if you are not sure what it is. You should be able to use BCDEDIT from a Windows Admin command prompt to delete the added entry. Use
    Code:
    BCDEDIT /?
    for help on BCDEDIT. Or maybe google will find you better documentation.
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    Default Re: Window Manager left behind after aborting openSuse 12.3 install

    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    I can't look over your shoulder to see that screen, but I'm pretty sure that you are seeing the Windows boot manager. And if that's correct, then the MBR has not been touched. There was probably a small "bootsector" file created, and an entry added to the Window BCD (Boot Configuration Data) to give that boot menu choice.

    The small file is small, and can be ignored if you are not sure what it is. You should be able to use BCDEDIT from a Windows Admin command prompt to delete the added entry. Use
    Code:
    BCDEDIT /?
    for help on BCDEDIT. Or maybe google will find you better documentation.
    And I think you are absolutely right, thank you sir, your help is appreciated.

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    Default Re: Window Manager left behind after aborting openSuse 12.3 install

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-10-10 22:16, ramarrie wrote:
    >
    > I was inside Windows 7 and looking into the directory of the Suse 12.3
    > DVD (4+ Gb) , and I started the program opensuse local.exe, this program
    > install suss from inside Windows. I just wanted to look a Suse without
    > installing it,


    That's impossible with the DVD. Instead download the "live" versions
    (gnome or KDE), slightly bigger than a CD, and run them (by booting).
    They run on the CD or USB stick, they don't install anything (unless you
    say so).

    > by the time I realize it was going to be a full install I
    > cancel the install. Now when I boot the laptop I get a Window Manager
    > with a choice of 1. Windows 7 or 2. Opensuse Local. I assume this window
    > is installed in the MBR and I tried to remove it with the Recovery
    > Console but it won't go away. I wonder if anybody can help. Why Suse
    > would go messing with the MBR before is fully installed?


    Most people here install by booting the DVD, we are not familiar with
    that exe program, we don't know what it does. I have heard that it
    modifies booting so that next it boots the DVD instead, hot.


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    Thank you Carlos for your help, I downloaded the DVD as an iso file, and while in Windows I explore the file which I had installed in a USB Thumb Drive, it was there that I saw this file opensuselocal.exe, so I clicked it and it went into a reboot mode and modified the bootsector of Windows by adding a second choice to start such file which actually makes a full install of Suse in your Harddisk according to the choices you make. I always used the Live CD to explore and see how a new version looks. So you are also right in your evaluation, so the program mention install Suse from inside Windows if you did not boot the DVD or USB Disk or Thumb Drive. I have Suse 12.1 in another machine and I like it a lot better than 12.3 which I got to check with the Live CD version. Thank you for your time and help. Updating to the latest release is not always a good idea.

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    Default Re: Window Manager left behind after aborting openSuse 12.3 install

    On 2013-10-12 09:16, ramarrie wrote:

    > Thank you Carlos for your help, I downloaded the DVD as an iso file, and
    > while in Windows I explore the file which I had installed in a USB Thumb
    > Drive, it was there that I saw this file opensuselocal.exe, so I clicked
    > it and it went into a reboot mode and modified the bootsector of Windows
    > by adding a second choice to start such file which actually makes a full
    > install of Suse in your Harddisk according to the choices you make.


    Ah... yes, just about what I thought. It is possible, then, that if you
    allow that option to boot once, it should disappear. Maybe it disappears
    if you actually install Linux, or it disappears anyway. I'm not familiar
    with that mode of installation, I don't use it.

    > I
    > always used the Live CD to explore and see how a new version looks. So
    > you are also right in your evaluation, so the program mention install
    > Suse from inside Windows if you did not boot the DVD or USB Disk or
    > Thumb Drive. I have Suse 12.1 in another machine and I like it a lot
    > better than 12.3 which I got to check with the Live CD version. Thank
    > you for your time and help. Updating to the latest release is not always
    > a good idea.


    Well, I always allow for about two months before installing the last
    version. Or, in this laptop I use 11.4 which is still maintained by
    Evergreen project (it is a community maintained LTS)

    openSUSE:Evergreen

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