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    Hi I just did a clean install of 12.3. The install went fine but I had a problem with Online Update to bring my system up to date. So there were a lot of updates to install, at least 225. It was about 53% complete, I can't remember what was installing, but it appeared to have hung. I tried several attempts to abort, and it wouldn't abort. Eventually, I rebooted. Now when I try to run Online Update, I get the message "Removing shim" and Package Installation Progress has stalled at 5% complete, Total Progress is 0%. It's been nearly three hours stuck there. So how to recover from this?

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    Default Re: Online Update Error

    Quit it

    I always do

    Code:
    zypper patch
    then reboot
    then
    Code:
    zypper patch
    then reboot
    then
    Code:
    zypper up
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    On 10/10/2013 11:51 AM, caf4926 pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > Quit it
    >
    > I always do
    >
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > zypper patch
    > --------------------
    >
    > then reboot
    > then
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > zypper patch
    > --------------------
    >
    > then reboot
    > then
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > zypper up
    > --------------------
    >
    >


    WTF, there is no need for the reboots unless packages are updated that
    require a reboot (hint, kernel update). People, this is NOT MS Windows.

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensch View Post
    WTF, there is no need for the reboots unless packages are updated that
    require a reboot (hint, kernel update). People, this is NOT MS Windows.
    I am pretty sure we know that. Programs will not always use new libraries unless they are restarted. On a personal workstation there isn't much cost to doing so.

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    On 10/10/2013 01:16 PM, nightwishfan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > kensch;2590445 Wrote:
    >> WTF, there is no need for the reboots unless packages are updated that
    >> require a reboot (hint, kernel update). People, this is NOT MS Windows.

    > I am pretty sure we know that. Programs will not always use new
    > libraries unless they are restarted. On a personal workstation there
    > isn't much cost to doing so.
    >
    >

    Which requires a restart of the program, not the computer. Again this is
    /not/ MS, stop giving advice like it is.

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    Why am I arguing with someone upset over rebooting a machine? This isn't drama class.

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    On 2013-10-10 19:34, Ken Schneider wrote:
    > On 10/10/2013 01:16 PM, nightwishfan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:


    > Which requires a restart of the program, not the computer. Again this is
    > /not/ MS, stop giving advice like it is.


    You have to run "zypper ps" to verify what needs to be restarted. In
    many cases, it is just easier to reboot.

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    Logging out and back in is often enough for most things other then kernel updates and a small handful of others.But note that only restarts processes for the current user and may not for a multi-user machine that many people are using at the same time. In which case you must reboot or manually restart the processes. A user level process will not be updated for a given user if they are currently running it. ie an update changes the file on the disk but does not change a running process until it is restarted

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    @kensch: A reboot is much easier than a restart of a process. You can do both and the result is the same here.
    Sometimes you need a lot of time to explain the difference for Linux newcomers.
    You don't know the knowledge of the TO.

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    On 10/11/2013 09:26 AM, AdaLovelace pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > @kensch: A reboot is much easier than a restart of a process. You can do
    > both and the result is the same here.
    > Sometimes you need a lot of time to explain the difference for Linux
    > newcomers.
    > You don't know the knowledge of the TO.
    >
    >


    I have been a linux user since 1995, unix since 1989 so yes I think I
    have a little knowledge of what requires a reboot and what doesn't. It's
    better to teach the newcomers the "better" way of doing things rather
    then just telling them to reboot. It may take a little more effort on
    your part to teach the better way of doing things then taking the "easy
    way out" that MS has dumb-ed everyone down to.
    Oh, and restart of a program is /much/ faster then a computer restart.

    Ken

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