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    Is there a built in product that would let me make a backup DVD, so that I could restore the system to its present status ?

    I almost said to be able to back up the C: drive

    I am a dual boot system, Windows 7 and I would need to be able to get that included.

    If there is not one built in, what do you recommend ?

    thanks

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    Default Re: Backup software ?

    Quote Originally Posted by hextejas View Post
    Is there a built in product that would let me make a backup DVD, so that I could restore the system to its present status ?

    I almost said to be able to back up the C: drive

    I am a dual boot system, Windows 7 and I would need to be able to get that included.

    If there is not one built in, what do you recommend ?

    thanks
    No there isn't. To elaborate: How would you get a Windows 7 install on a DVD?
    What you can do, is use "dd" to create backups of entire partitions. This would require an external HDD.

    But..... rather backup your precious data, and/or the config files ( f.e. the entire /etc folder ).
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    On 2013-08-19 14:56, hextejas wrote:
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    > Is there a built in product that would let me make a backup DVD, so that
    > I could restore the system to its present status ?
    >
    > I almost said to be able to back up the C: drive
    >
    > I am a dual boot system, Windows 7 and I would need to be able to get
    > that included.


    All that into a single DVD... it probably can not fit, too large.

    Have a look at clonezilla, it does just that. But I don't know if it can
    clone across several DVDs.

    I clone using plain 'dd' to a hd insstead. I want something better, as
    in having compression and error detection and recovery.

    There is a tool that I still have not tested, and now I can not find it.

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    On 2013-08-19 17:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > There is a tool that I still have not tested, and now I can not find it.


    Package "ewftools", perhaps program "ewfacquire".

    ewftools - Utilities for the Expert Witness Compression Format (EWF)

    It is currently part of the distribution. There is a test susestudio
    image that I still have not tested:

    Code:
    http://susestudio.com/a/eD1wrT/dfir-opensuse-gnome-desktop-32bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    No there isn't. To elaborate: How would you get a Windows 7 install on a DVD?
    What you can do, is use "dd" to create backups of entire partitions. This would require an external HDD.

    But..... rather backup your precious data, and/or the config files ( f.e. the entire /etc folder ).
    Re "my precious data", is that what is located in >home ?

    It seems that if I had that for each user I would be in pretty good shape.
    Yes ??

    Could I also make a bootable DVD that would have boot up openSUSE and be able to install itself, along with whatever changes I have made from the original install ?

    I am trying to protect myself without having to go through all the gyrations we have done so far since my initial install.

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    On 2013-08-20 15:06, hextejas wrote:
    > I am trying to protect myself without having to go through all the
    > gyrations we have done so far since my initial install.


    What I do for that is either:

    - dd the entire disk to an image file on another, bigger disk.

    - separate images:
    · image the first few sectors of the disk (mbr, partition table, and
    a bit more) to an image. backup the partition table with a partitioner
    that can recreate them.
    · image each partition of interest into image files.
    · skip home image - instead rsync it.


    I still want a better method that does compression and error recovery. I
    have some issues with the likes of clonezilla.


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    Like you, I used to search for the backup holy grail and never found it. Just think about it: what matters is what you created (in /home), and perhaps the configuration files in /etc. Use one of the many excellent rsync based utilities (I recommend LuckyBackup) and have done with it. Eeverything else takes an evening to reinstall, much less than the search for the perfect backup solution.
    But then again, I don't use Windows anymore. From (now distant) memory, it always reached the stage when I no longer wanted to restore all the crud in the registry, and preferred a fresh reinstall anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gminnerup View Post
    Like you, I used to search for the backup holy grail and never found it. Just think about it: what matters is what you created (in /home), and perhaps the configuration files in /etc. Use one of the many excellent rsync based utilities (I recommend LuckyBackup) and have done with it. Eeverything else takes an evening to reinstall, much less than the search for the perfect backup solution.
    But then again, I don't use Windows anymore. From (now distant) memory, it always reached the stage when I no longer wanted to restore all the crud in the registry, and preferred a fresh reinstall anyway...
    That's what I did gminnerup, installed LuckyBackup and had it make copies of home and /etc.
    It runs pretty fast.
    I have been ignoring the Windows data and the more that I use openSUSE, the less likely that I am to go back to it, other than at tax time, once a year.

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    If you run Windows only for taxes then I'd do a way with dual boot (it can be a pain) and install a version of Windows in a virtual machine like VirtualBox. Note you do have to have a real Windows disk not one that is just a image from the computer maker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogalthorp View Post
    If you run Windows only for taxes then I'd do a way with dual boot (it can be a pain) and install a version of Windows in a virtual machine like VirtualBox. Note you do have to have a real Windows disk not one that is just a image from the computer maker.
    That's exactly what I do, for the same reason (running tax software, on occasion things like Word or InDesign). This also solves your backup problem with Windows files, as the Windows drive is just a (hidden) file on your hard disk and gets backed up with everything else.
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