Hi,
on a certain page from my ISP I get a notice from FF that a plugin is
needed. If I click on it a window opens that it is searching for a
plugin (Welcome to the Plugin Finder Service (openSUSE)), but nothing is
found in minutes, the window is stuck.
I have no idea what plugin it is it needs. How can I found it out?
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Do you really think we are going to be able to guess?
This is probably unrelated, but I get a similar useless plugin prompt when checking voice mail at my ISP site. The funny thing is that, if I ignore the message, the voice mail plays anyway - I think using something from gnome that emulates Windows media player. If, instead, I download the voicemail file, it is a “.wav” file, and amarok plays it without a problem.
Note that I did do the multimedia thingy with packman.
Okay, so my reply is probably useless for your problem. I’m posting it in the off-chance that it might help.
sounds like you ISP is requiring Windows 
On 2013-08-05 00:06, nrickert wrote:
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> robin_listas;2576855 Wrote:
>> I have no idea what plugin it is it needs.
>
> Do you really think we are going to be able to guess?
Maybe there is a method to find that out that I’m not aware of.
Looking at page info or page source, perhaps?
> This is probably unrelated, but I get a similar useless plugin prompt
> when checking voice mail at my ISP site. The funny thing is that, if I
> ignore the message, the voice mail plays anyway - I think using
> something from gnome that emulates Windows media player. If, instead, I
> download the voicemail file, it is a “.wav” file, and amarok plays it
> without a problem.
>
> Note that I did do the multimedia thingy with packman.
>
> Okay, so my reply is probably useless for your problem. I’m posting it
> in the off-chance that it might help.
The thing is, I get the warning both from the page and from firefox. And
there is an empty box where I should get some graphic.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-08-05 01:16, gogalthorp wrote:
>
> sounds like you ISP is requiring Windows
Ha, ha.
I don’t laugh, because I’m afraid it might be so.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
You might be able to tell if you inspect the page elements
On 08/05/2013 02:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The thing is, I get the warning both from the page and from firefox. And
> there is an empty box where I should get some graphic.
have not seen it happen in a long while, but i have seen the case
where javascript didn’t run exactly correctly and instead of the
warning saying “Javascript error” it said (something like) “A plugin
is missing.” or “Flash is missing” or . . .
so, first check to make sure that NoScript (or similar javascript
blocker) is allowing all javascript on that page to run…
next, that “empty” box might be because what your ISP is
requiring of your Java™ Plugin is not working right…(yes, i
know that javascript and Java™ Plugin are different things…but i
get a blank box occasionally from my bank because, because my Java is
not the one made by Microsoft that my bank thinks is the only
secure Java on the planet. [/sigh])
in either of those cases, the fault is usually because the site is
using a Microsoft IIS (web server, instead of an enterprise class
'nix) and the latest and greatest versions of Java and javascript
made and distributed by Microsoft (which work GREAT with MSIE, and
nothing else)
my experience has been that the Opera browser (latest available via
the repos) is the one most likely to be able to function ‘correctly’
on a Windows-centric web site…try it.
you could post the URL (or PM/email it)??
On 2013-08-05 04:36, caf4926 wrote:
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> You might be able to tell if you inspect the page elements
I tried…
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-08-05 09:23, dd wrote:
> On 08/05/2013 02:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> so, first check to make sure that NoScript (or similar javascript
> blocker) is allowing all javascript on that page to run…
No, I don’t block scripts, too many things break 
> next, that “empty” box might be because what your ISP is requiring
> of your Java™ Plugin is not working right…(yes, i know that
> javascript and Java™ Plugin are different things…but i get a blank
> box occasionally from my bank because, because my Java is not the one
> made by Microsoft that my bank thinks is the only secure Java on the
> planet. [/sigh])
Bingo!
It is java which broke. I tested a page with a java applet known to work
at the same ISP, and got the same warning.
http://www.movistar.es/testdevelocidad
This happens probably, because I installed JDK the other day and perhaps
it broke the java plugin from JRE. I’ll have to investigate.
So far, I can see there is no java plugin in FF of any sort.
> you could post the URL (or PM/email it)??
It needs my contract password, the page is inside my invoice data. But I
posted one above that has the same problem which you can try if you wish
(pressing matters: lunch preparation and usage 
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 08/05/2013 01:58 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> i posted one above that has the same problem which you can try
yes, it is detecting that you (and i) have a version of Java which is
not the one MS-IIS wants Earth [and the International Space
Station] to use.
fyi, i’ve been using Chrome for the last few months and it does
things a little different from Firefox…you have seen how FF
handles the rebuff from MS-IIS (blank box and useless error message),
instead Chrome pops up an almost blank box (it does contain a
‘broken puzzle’ icon, and a helpful yellow strip across the top of
the browser in which reads “Java™ was blocked because it is out of
date.” and offers “Run this time” and “Update plug-in”
buttons…hmmm, see image http://susepaste.org/71508074
i just click ‘Run this time’ until that no longer works [it WILL stop
working after a while] and then i update my (Oracle) Java…which
usually makes MS-IIS happy, for a while…
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dd
On 2013-08-05 17:08, dd wrote:
> On 08/05/2013 01:58 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> i posted one above that has the same problem which you can try
>
> yes, it is detecting that you (and i) have a version of Java which is
> not the one MS-IIS wants Earth [and the International Space Station]
> to use.
Not exactly. I have installed both the JRE (which it wants) but also the
java development kit, JDK, from same source. They should be compatible.
This one changed a symlink:
/usr/java/latest --> jdk1.7.0_25
instead of jre1.7.0_25
It is a package fault of the jdk rpm, because the jdk does not contain
the plugin, that is in the jre.
However, if I do that, I can no longer compile java apps, because they
think that the JDK is not installed!
That’s a bug somewhere.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2013-08-05 17:08, dd wrote:
>> On 08/05/2013 01:58 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> i posted one above that has the same problem which you can try
>>
>> yes, it is detecting that you (and i) have a version of Java which is
>> not the one MS-IIS wants Earth [and the International Space Station]
>> to use.
>
> Not exactly. I have installed both the JRE (which it wants) but also the
> java development kit, JDK, from same source. They should be compatible.
> This one changed a symlink:
>
>
> /usr/java/latest --> jdk1.7.0_25
>
GNOME 3.6.2
openSUSE Release 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64-bit
Kernel Linux 3.7.10-1.16-desktop
On 2013-08-05 20:57, vazhavandan wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> drjava(JAR/IDE) can compile java classes without jdk. It uses inbuilt
> ecj(eclipse java compiler) to compile classes.
> http://drjava.org/
Maybe… but I don’t know java myself. It is a a java project that is
distributed as source and contains both a build.bat and a build.sh to
build the project, and it simply expects javac in the path:
> # check prerequisites
> type javac >/dev/null 2>&1
> if $? -ne 0 ] ; then
> echo "javac not found in \$PATH" >&2
> echo "Please install the JAVA compiler before calling this script!" >&2
> exit 1
> fi
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Have you tried the Iced Tea plugin?
On my system it works fine:
openSUSE 12.2 64bit
KDE 4.8.5
FF: 22.0
java-1_7_0-openjdk 1.7.0.6-3.37.1 (update is due)
icedtea-web 1.4-1.21.1
On 2013-08-05 22:56, kasi042 wrote:
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> Have you tried the Iced Tea plugin?
The problem is not the plugin. Is having both JRE and JDK installed
properly.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
On 2013-08-05 22:56, kasi042 wrote:
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> Have you tried the Iced Tea plugin?
> On my system it works fine:
>
> openSUSE 12.2 64bit
> KDE 4.8.5
> FF: 22.0
> java-1_7_0-openjdk 1.7.0.6-3.37.1 (update is due)
> icedtea-web 1.4-1.21.1
Apparently the open java version does not work with all programs.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
In Firefox, you can right click on the message and select ‘Inspect Element.’ When I did this I found the following:
pluginspage=“http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer”
which led me to install Firefox’s plugin for flash player.
You do realize that you are responding to a post that’s three years old, right?
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