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    Default is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    i am using openSUSE12.3, my DE is KDE 4.10.3, i use fcitx input method framework and never ever use ibus.
    libibus-1_0-0 is part of ibus input method framework, right?
    when i try to remove libibus-1_0-0 through zypper, a lot of related packages will be removed also.
    Code:
    bruce@www:~> sudo zypper rm libibus-1_0-0
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    
    The following packages are going to be REMOVED:
      NetworkManager-gnome accountsservice brltty espeak gdm gdmflexiserver gnome-bluetooth gnome-session gnome-session-core gnome-session-default-session 
      gnome-shell libaccountsservice0 libbrlapi0_5 libcaribou0 libdotconf0 libgdm1 libgdmsimplegreeter1 libgnomesu libgnomesu0 libibus-1_0-0 liblouis2 
      libmutter0 libportaudio2 libreoffice-icon-theme-tango libspeechd2 libtelepathy-logger3 libxklavier16 metacity mutter mutter-data orca plasma-addons 
      polkit-gnome python-atspi python-brlapi python-gstreamer-0_10 python-louis python-speechd speech-dispatcher speech-dispatcher-module-espeak 
      typelib-1_0-AccountsService-1_0 typelib-1_0-Atspi-2_0 typelib-1_0-Caribou-1_0 typelib-1_0-GMenu-3_0 typelib-1_0-Gck-1 typelib-1_0-Gcr-3 
      typelib-1_0-Gdm-1_0 typelib-1_0-GnomeBluetooth-1_0 typelib-1_0-GnomeDesktop-3_0 typelib-1_0-IBus-1_0 typelib-1_0-Meta-3_0 typelib-1_0-NMClient-1_0 
      typelib-1_0-NetworkManager-1_0 typelib-1_0-Polkit-1_0 typelib-1_0-TelepathyGlib-0_12 typelib-1_0-TelepathyLogger-0_2 typelib-1_0-UpowerGlib-1_0 
      typelib-1_0-Wnck-3_0 xbrlapi xorg-x11-server-extra zenity 
    
    
    61 packages to remove.
    After the operation, 50.5 MiB will be freed.
    Continue? [y/n/?] (y): n
    i do not use gnome, do not use ibus, but use some gtk-based applications such as google chrome and firefox. is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?
    Using openSUSE 13.2 64bit, KDE 4.14.9
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    Default Re: is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    Of course, when you remove something and it is said that it is needed bij other packages, the best thing is to remove those other packages also. But when you need one of them, you better do not remove the first package, because the other ones will probably not function correctly anymore. Thus it is only you that can decide if it is "save" (whatever you mean with that word) to remove all this.

    I know nothing about the packages you mention, but you do not say that libibus-1_0-0 is giving you problems, except that you think you do not need it. Your system is full of packages that you may never need. Thus they only occupy a few kbytes of diskspace. Why remove it?
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    Default Re: is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    Is the presence of the package hurting you / your work somehow? If not, leave it where it is.
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    Default Re: is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    On 06/07/2013 01:06 PM, redhatlinux10 wrote:
    > 50.5 MiB will be freed.


    question: do you _really_ need to save so little space?

    if so, perhaps you could delete half of most any _one_ song? or a few
    minutes out of any movie not likely to ever be watched again...or or

    but, to directly answer your question: i don't know and i'm not sure
    how anyone could know until they look at every application on your
    machine and ask: Do you ever use this? and then look at everything on
    the list to be deleted and decide if it will impact what you do use,
    or not (how many hours of work might that be?)

    so, the alternative answer is: maybe, maybe not....you find out for
    sure this way [read the caveat in my sig before beginning]:

    -do a full system backup
    -test that you can restore from that backup
    -delete libibus
    -boot and run it
    --if you like it without libibus: DONE!
    --if you do not like it without libibus, reinstall the full system
    from backup: DONE!

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    Default Re: is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    thanks for your relevant suggestions!
    usually only CJK users use an input method framework. so it's understandable that your are not familiar with ibus or fcitx.
    i am curious that why so many gnome packages depend on a input method framework. is ibus hardcoded into gnome codes?
    i will try to figure out what these packages do and their dependencies.
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    Default Re: is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    Quote Originally Posted by redhatlinux10 View Post
    thanks for your relevant suggestions!
    usually only CJK users use an input method framework. so it's understandable that your are not familiar with ibus or fcitx.
    i am curious that why so many gnome packages depend on a input method framework. is ibus hardcoded into gnome codes?
    i will try to figure out what these packages do and their dependencies.

    I just went ahead and uninstalled ibus and all those dependencies in 12.3 (KDE)
    Didn't notice any issues.
    fcitx continued to work without problem.

    I'm not sure what is up with all the gtk dependencies in 12.3.
    I don't believe they existed in 12.2 - but it is a different version of ibus so perhaps something changed.

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    Default Re: is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    On 2013-06-08 13:46, farcusnz wrote:


    > I just went ahead and uninstalled ibus and all those dependencies in
    > 12.3 (KDE)
    > Didn't notice any issues.
    > fcitx continued to work without problem.


    As you removed all chained dependencies, system remains consistent.
    Safe? Depends. Maybe one day you run some app, and some functionality
    doesn't work (or it crashes). But if it happens weeks from now you will
    not remember this removal and might not connect the two things.

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    Default Re: is it safe to remove libibus-1_0-0?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-06-08 13:46, farcusnz wrote:


    > I just went ahead and uninstalled ibus and all those dependencies in
    > 12.3 (KDE)
    > Didn't notice any issues.
    > fcitx continued to work without problem.


    As you removed all chained dependencies, system remains consistent.
    Safe? Depends. Maybe one day you run some app, and some functionality
    doesn't work (or it crashes). But if it happens weeks from now you will
    not remember this removal and might not connect the two things.
    It's been a good couple of months and I haven't noticed any issues.
    I don't have too many gtk apps - so I would imagine if I install an app that has those requirements it will let me know.

    to the OP - I can't find the link now - but I did read that there was a bug about gtk dependencies for ibus in openSUSE 12.3 as ibus in KDE should not depend on gtk.
    I believe it was addressed in an update somewhere along the way and when I reinstalled ibus to check something out it did not drag all those gtk dependencies in along with it.

    is your system up-to-date?

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    On 2013-06-08 16:06, farcusnz wrote:
    > I believe it was addressed in an update somewhere along the way and
    > when I reinstalled ibus to check something out it did not drag all those
    > gtk dependencies in along with it


    It happens :-)

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