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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 2013-06-05 16:16, arvidjaar wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2562812 Wrote:
    >>
    >> And there is not a fully featured text install?
    >>

    >
    > That depends on definition of "fully featured".


    Yes, of course :-)

    But it was quite clear, say, 15 years ago.

    I would have, for instance, mc, mutt, alpine, slrn, lynx, links, joe,
    vi, emacs, pinfo... whois, various network tools...


    > Although having man
    > pages without possibility to display them looks weird indeed (Mandriva
    > offered possibility to omit all documentation including man pages for
    > truly minimal install IIRC).


    I guess that, as the man pages are included with each program, they can
    not be easily removed at install time, unless you delete them with rm later.

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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 2013-06-05 16:16, arvidjaar wrote:
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    > DenverD;2562816 Wrote:
    >> On 06/05/2013 11:16 AM, aperantos wrote:
    >>> My install was the server option (no X11) from the installer,

    >> incidentally.
    >>
    >> first you said it was a default install..



    > Define "default".


    kde or gnome are the default options ;-)


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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 06/05/2013 04:16 PM, arvidjaar wrote:
    > Define "default".


    boot from install media, accept all as offered, give only info
    requested/required (ID, Pass, oh ok select locale..or go with the
    default somewhere in the USA)--will give KDE desktop with auto-login
    and separate /home partition...

    right?

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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 06/05/2013 04:16 PM, arvidjaar wrote:
    > Although having man
    > pages without possibility to display them looks weird indeed


    what? you don't need to have X involved to read the man! try this:
    [read all before beginning]

    -hold Ctrl+Alt and press F2
    -log in as yourself in the true terminal, no X anywhere
    -type and then enter man sudo
    -read all you wish, press q to quit
    -type exit and enter to log out
    -hold Ctrl+Alt and press F7 to return to the GUI


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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 2013-06-05 16:41, dd wrote:
    > On 06/05/2013 04:16 PM, arvidjaar wrote:
    >> Define "default".

    >
    > boot from install media, accept all as offered, give only info
    > requested/required (ID, Pass, oh ok select locale..or go with the
    > default somewhere in the USA)--will give KDE desktop with auto-login and
    > separate /home partition...
    >
    > right?


    Nope :-)

    Assuming it is the DVD media, there is a point where you have to choose
    desktop, none is preselected. KDE is the first option, Gnome the second,
    other the third.

    I might be mistaken though, maybe KDE is preselected. I remember the
    point was argued a lot.


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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 2013-06-05 16:48, dd wrote:
    > On 06/05/2013 04:16 PM, arvidjaar wrote:
    >> Although having man
    >> pages without possibility to display them looks weird indeed

    >
    > what? you don't need to have X involved to read the man! try this:


    You are missing that we are talking about the text based install
    pattern. It does not include "man", which IMHO is absurd. It is more
    absurd what he points out: that the man pages are included, but not the
    viewer.

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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 06/05/2013 04:53 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > none is preselected.


    could be, the last one i installed (11.4) KDE was preselected...i
    think....of course, i also think i had fried eggs for
    breakfast....but, that MAY have been yesterday!!

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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    I guess that, as the man pages are included with each program, they can
    not be easily removed at install time
    Code:
    rpm -i --excludedocs
    You can also put equivalent of --excludedocs in rpmrc/rpmmacros (depends on RPM version) which is what Mandrake^H^H^Hiva did unless I'm mistaken.

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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverD View Post
    On 06/05/2013 04:16 PM, arvidjaar wrote:
    > Although having man
    > pages without possibility to display them looks weird indeed


    what? you don't need to have X involved to read the man! try this:
    [read all before beginning]

    -hold Ctrl+Alt and press F2
    -log in as yourself in the true terminal, no X anywhere
    -type and then enter man sudo
    -read all you wish, press q to quit
    -type exit and enter to log out
    -hold Ctrl+Alt and press F7 to return to the GUI


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    Thank you for sharing this with us, mere mortals. I'll need some time to understand all of this; hopefully I will learn something.

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    Default Re: Starting a shell with sudo works different in openSUSE?

    On 2013-06-05 19:26, arvidjaar wrote:
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    > robin_listas;2562841 Wrote:
    >>
    >> I guess that, as the man pages are included with each program, they can
    >> not be easily removed at install time

    >
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > rpm -i --excludedocs
    > --------------------
    >
    > You can also put equivalent of --excludedocs in rpmrc/rpmmacros
    > (depends on RPM version) which is what Mandrake^H^H^Hiva did unless I'm
    > mistaken.


    Ah... interesting.

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