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    Question Kernel Update

    Hey guys,

    Is Opensuse going to update Opensuse 12.3 kernel any time soon?

    I just saw at kernel.org:

    stable: 3.8.13 [EOL] 2013-05-11
    stable: 3.7.10 [EOL] 2013-02-27

    3.7.10 is at it End Of Life (EOL) and that's the kernel in 12.3

    Thanks to James I've been updating using his S.A.K.C. script, but it would be better to get kernel updates from Opensuse.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Kernel Update

    On Tue, 21 May 2013 15:56:02 +0000, jurgen73 wrote:

    > Is Opensuse going to update Opensuse 12.3 kernel any time soon?


    Generally, no; security updates are backported to the current kernel.
    There are alternatives if you want something newer, such as using the
    Kernel:Stable repository, but that's considered an advanced user option.

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    Default Re: Kernel Update

    Quote Originally Posted by jurgen73 View Post
    Hey guys,

    Is Opensuse going to update Opensuse 12.3 kernel any time soon?

    I just saw at kernel.org:

    stable: 3.8.13 [EOL] 2013-05-11
    stable: 3.7.10 [EOL] 2013-02-27

    3.7.10 is at it End Of Life (EOL) and that's the kernel in 12.3

    Thanks to James I've been updating using his S.A.K.C. script, but it would be better to get kernel updates from Opensuse.

    Thanks.
    James talks about openSUSE kernel repos here
    https://forums.opensuse.org/blogs/jd...-versions-134/

    Be thankful that openSUSe 12.3 give you 3.7.10 whereas other distributions package lower versions of kernel
    Example:-Ubuntu currently packages the 3.5 kernel for optimal desktop speed and features.
    source:- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
    GNOME Version 3.20.2
    openSUSE Leap 42.3 64-bit

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    Default Re: Kernel Update

    Quote Originally Posted by jurgen73 View Post
    I just saw at kernel.org:

    stable: 3.8.13 [EOL] 2013-05-11
    stable: 3.7.10 [EOL] 2013-02-27

    3.7.10 is at it End Of Life (EOL) and that's the kernel in 12.3
    You aren't the first one who's noticed this, but support for the kernel extends beyond the main Linux project. openSUSE will continue to provide patches through the life of oS 12.3. Upgrading the kernel at midlife would lead to stability issues, and oS tries to offer a stable system. You still have excellent support.

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    Please don't stare at the version numbers too much. If you don't have any valid reasons, i.e. hardware that only works with a newer kernel, leave the kernel in peace.
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    Default Re: Kernel Update

    If one wishes to get a 'flavour' wrt staleness of kernel versions, go to DistroWatch and look at all the top 20 distributions according to Distrowatch hit tracking. Look at the kernel version numbers of the most recent releases of the top 20 distros in the Distrowatch hit tracking. One will see that the 3.7.10.x kernel in openSUSE-12.3 is VERY recent, relative to other distributions, despite any "EOL" labels. The vast majority of other distros have significantly older kernels.

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    Default Re: Kernel Update

    To add to my previous post: if you do want the latest stable kernel, openSUSE has Tumbleweed. Not bleeding edge, but recent stable versions of packages. See here: https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
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    I can say that the latest kernel available that I have used has been 3.8.xx in Mageia 3 which is the other flavor of Linux I use at this time on one of my laptops, an X-31 Think Pad. I have used it since the semi end of Mandriva when it basically died a couple of years ago and the forking of the community there. I get as good a result with the 3.4.xx version kernel in openSUSE 12.2 which I use in a couple of other computers. Since all of the computers are stable and work fine I am not so worried about kernel hopping to the latest version. I will admit to doing that obsessively long ago when I thought it might matter. I do keep KDE and Libre Office up to the latest versions however...

    On a different note and sadly mentioned, I upgraded 12.3 back to 12.2 because I could not visually tolerate the dark (and to me depressing) graphics look of the theme. I remember one of the 11.xx versions being dark and gloomy as well... (Mageia 3 is somewhat dark and gloomy this version as well??? why the fascination with dark themes? I don't care if I save a few watts from a darker screen illumination level if in the end I then turn off the computer not to look at the screen art?)

    ymmv

    cheers all...

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    Default Re: Kernel Update

    On 2013-05-25, zxr250cc <zxr250cc@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > On a different note and sadly mentioned, I upgraded 12.3 back to 12.2
    > because I could not visually tolerate the dark (and to me depressing)
    > graphics look of the theme. I remember one of the 11.xx versions being
    > dark and gloomy as well... (Mageia 3 is somewhat dark and gloomy this
    > version as well??? why the fascination with dark themes? I don't care if
    > I save a few watts from a darker screen illumination level if in the end
    > I then turn off the computer not to look at the screen art?)


    You do know you can change the desktop wallpaper without reverting to 12.2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxr250cc View Post
    On a different note and sadly mentioned, I upgraded 12.3 back to 12.2 because I could not visually tolerate the dark (and to me depressing) graphics look of the theme. I remember one of the 11.xx versions being dark and gloomy as well... (Mageia 3 is somewhat dark and gloomy this version as well??? why the fascination with dark themes? I don't care if I save a few watts from a darker screen illumination level if in the end I then turn off the computer not to look at the screen art?)
    the default theme in 12.2 was Air
    This is available in 12.3 and is simply a case of going to configure desktop > workspace appearance > desktop theme

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