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    Default Android UI for real time SUSE?

    Windows 8 user interface is a big improvement for non-admin (data field) application front ends, particularly with touch screen functionality, but seems to be closing off the functionality of apps using hardware interfaces, just as usb 3 offers serious real time data transfer rates and GPUs interesting DSP possibilities, so I am wondering if there is an add on to PC linux providing the android ui?

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    Default Re: Android UI for real time SUSE?

    Interestig question, but do you mean on openSUSE?
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    Although a long time ago I was a UNIX C programmer I have only recently begun to get into Linux. People used to call UNIX open, as opposed to distinctive proprietary OSs, so is there a closedSUSE I don't know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSiMo View Post
    Although a long time ago I was a UNIX C programmer I have only recently begun to get into Linux. People used to call UNIX open, as opposed to distinctive proprietary OSs, so is there a closedSUSE I don't know about?
    There is SLES/SLED: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server/Desktop: https://www.suse.com/
    Main advantages (imho), you can buy support for it and versions will be supported for a longer time.

    It is related to openSUSE, but it is not the same and has his own Forums. Not many people here are fluent with it and we allways try to find out what people use/talk about when they do not say it is about openSUSE. This to point them to the right direction before they get inapproriate advice.
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    I started my UNIX on a PDP 11 and went with it for maybe 6 years before focusing on organisational aspects of IT. But originally I studied mathematical physics and the hardware possibilities finally seem to be catching up with the theory for the small business/hobby user, but I have a bit of catching up to do. Smartphones with actual android are starting to have Arm Mali GPUs but I have not seen one with USB 3. But the pc architecture and form factor means it will be substantially better performing for some time. Android/Win8 when you started to get used to it and particularly with touch does seem far better than Win94 KDE Xwindows type interfaces. I would suspect out there someone would be doing something android-alike for linux, so I thought I would throw the question out on a likely forum. Is the real time element not part of openSUSE?

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    On 05/09/2013 01:06 PM, DrSiMo wrote:
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    > I would suspect out there someone would be
    > doing something android-alike for linux, so I thought I would throw the
    > question out on a likely forum.


    perhaps you don't realize that Android is a system running on a
    purpose built Linux kernel....

    some people say Android is a "desktop environment" for linux...some
    say it is an "application", Google (its maker) says it is an
    "operating system"..

    no matter what anyone calls it is 'something' between the buttons you
    see on its face and a linux kernel..



    > Is the real time element not part of openSUSE?


    i don't know what that means...but, openSUSE goes something like this

    hardware > BIOS > Kernel > X Windows system > Windows manager >
    Desktop Environment

    i have not read it all, but maybe you want to:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

    where i see: "Android consists of a kernel based on Linux kernel
    version 2.6 and, from Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich onwards, version
    3.x, with middleware, libraries and APIs written in C, and
    application software running on an application framework which
    includes Java-compatible libraries based on Apache Harmony. . .
    Android's Linux kernel has further architecture changes by Google
    outside the typical Linux kernel development cycle.[60] Android does
    not have a native X Window System by default nor does it support the
    full set of standard GNU libraries, and this makes it difficult to
    port existing Linux applications or libraries to Android. . ."

    personally, i know of no one who is trying to clone a desktop
    environment for Linux (or openSUSE) which will mimic/look like
    Android...but, it should be something which can be done....but why?

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    Default Re: Android UI for real time SUSE?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrSiMo View Post
    I started my UNIX on a PDP 11 and went with it for maybe 6 years before focusing on organisational aspects of IT. But originally I studied mathematical physics and the hardware possibilities finally seem to be catching up with the theory for the small business/hobby user, but I have a bit of catching up to do. Smartphones with actual android are starting to have Arm Mali GPUs but I have not seen one with USB 3. But the pc architecture and form factor means it will be substantially better performing for some time. Android/Win8 when you started to get used to it and particularly with touch does seem far better than Win94 KDE Xwindows type interfaces. I would suspect out there someone would be doing something android-alike for linux, so I thought I would throw the question out on a likely forum. Is the real time element not part of openSUSE?
    We do not have Android for Intel pc yet but it should happen soon. I have no idea what that has to do with openSUSE? There is an openSUSE project for ARM that is getting along nicely. https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:ARM
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    Default Re: Android UI for real time SUSE?

    AFAIK the OP wants to run the Android launcher as a replacement for f.e. KDE, GNOME etc. At least, that's what I read.
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    On 05/09/2013 04:26 PM, Knurpht wrote:
    > At least, that's what I read.


    i think i answered his the question (read that way) in the last para
    of my answer..

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    Default Re: Android UI for real time SUSE?

    Two other thoughts:
    1. Perhaps we should point out there are Android Virtual Machines for Vbox, if one simply wants to experiment with Android on a desktop.
    I loaded one once, but was not familiar enough with Android at the time to get much done.
    2. The term real time may be of significance to the OP.
    Ten+ years ago, the need for timing-deterministic OS was a big deal for apps, particularly "appliance "apps running on small/slow CPU cores. Linux was not considered real time, although there were several start-ups working the opportunity.
    With current CPU speeds and modern embedded DSP cores doing a lot of the "real time" work, you don't see much discussion on this topic any more.
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