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    Question New installation with KDE and opensuse 12.3 :: Multiple permission problems

    Hello,

    I have just installed Opensuse 12.3 actually i have done it twice just to see if it was user related error or not.

    The following problem occurs:
    1) The Update manager tells me there's 71 updates (or something like it) i click on that little popup, review the updates, click install.. and there it comes.. auth failure , it manages to do this even without asking for a password or anything, and then repeats this for about 2 - 3 times, this process will repeat from here on.

    2) Network Management --> I clicked to start it, try to view devices or anything, nothing is there nothing to click and aparently no connection.

    I checked in yast, yast also says network management has control.

    This all happens under the user created by the Opensuse setup,
    Once i switch user and login as root, Network Management shows my wireless networks, shows my LAN connection and ofcourse updates out of the box.


    I am aware that there's aways around it not to use these guis but here's the thing:

    1) I need VPN Connections to easily enable/disable
    2) I prefer not to get auth failure every few minutes for the rest of my life
    3) I prefer not to login and use root OR assign similar priveledges to my normal account thats just not logical at all.

    So the question is:
    How do i set the permissions so the network manager is happy?
    and same goes for update manager all running by default in KDE.

    Please note this is a 100% fresh system and i can simulate this on each fresh install.

    Regards,
    Marco

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    Default Re: New installation with KDE and opensuse 12.3 :: Multiple permission problems

    Hi Marco, can you issue
    Code:
    loginctl list-users
    when you login with your regular user and post results here?
    Also, what if you logout and login back? Does it also happen?
    I suspect you are using KDM, correct?

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    Default Re: New installation with KDE and opensuse 12.3 :: Multiplepermission problems

    On 2013-05-07, mtiggelaar <mtiggelaar@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > I have just installed Opensuse 12.3 actually i have done it twice just
    > to see if it was user related error or not.


    I can see from below you have KDE installed. When you installed, did you install from Live or DVD with/without automatic
    configuration?

    On 2013-05-07, mtiggelaar <mtiggelaar@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > The following problem occurs:
    > 1) The Update manager tells me there's 71 updates (or something like
    > it) i click on that little popup, review the updates, click install..
    > and there it comes.. auth failure , it manages to do this even without
    > asking for a password or anything, and then repeats this for about 2 - 3
    > times, this process will repeat from here on.


    Odd. Does this happen if you create a new user and log in as that new user?

    > 2) Network Management --> I clicked to start it, try to view devices or
    > anything, nothing is there nothing to click and aparently no connection.
    >
    > I checked in yast, yast also says network management has control.
    >
    > This all happens under the user created by the Opensuse setup,
    > Once i switch user and login as root, Network Management shows my
    > wireless networks, shows my LAN connection and ofcourse updates out of
    > the box.


    It suggests to me something botched about the KDE configuration for the default user.

    > I am aware that there's aways around it not to use these guis but
    > here's the thing:
    >
    > 1) I need VPN Connections to easily enable/disable


    Which client do you use? I find the easiest way to handle VPNs is via a virtual machine (e.g. kvm) so I can use the
    native connection with the host system and VPN inside the guest.

    > 2) I prefer not to get auth failure every few minutes for the rest of
    > my life


    That is very strange. If you're not entirely sold on KDE, have you tried another DE?

    > 3) I prefer not to login and use root OR assign similar priveledges to
    > my normal account thats just not logical at all.


    Agreed.

    > So the question is:
    > How do i set the permissions so the network manager is happy?
    > and same goes for update manager all running by default in KDE.
    >
    > Please note this is a 100% fresh system and i can simulate this on each
    > fresh install.


    I suspect someone more knowledgeable and experienced than me knows a definite answer to your question about keeping
    network/update managers happy. However after a fresh install, I wonder whether you get the same results if you create a
    new account and login with that. If so, then there is at the very least a problem outide $HOME.

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    Smile Re: New installation with KDE and opensuse 12.3 :: Multiple permission problems

    Quote Originally Posted by mtiggelaar View Post
    Hello,

    I have just installed Opensuse 12.3 actually i have done it twice just to see if it was user related error or not.

    The following problem occurs:
    1) The Update manager tells me there's 71 updates (or something like it) i click on that little popup, review the updates, click install.. and there it comes.. auth failure , it manages to do this even without asking for a password or anything, and then repeats this for about 2 - 3 times, this process will repeat from here on.

    2) Network Management --> I clicked to start it, try to view devices or anything, nothing is there nothing to click and aparently no connection.

    I checked in yast, yast also says network management has control.

    This all happens under the user created by the Opensuse setup,
    Once i switch user and login as root, Network Management shows my wireless networks, shows my LAN connection and ofcourse updates out of the box.


    I am aware that there's aways around it not to use these guis but here's the thing:

    1) I need VPN Connections to easily enable/disable
    2) I prefer not to get auth failure every few minutes for the rest of my life
    3) I prefer not to login and use root OR assign similar priveledges to my normal account thats just not logical at all.

    So the question is:
    How do i set the permissions so the network manager is happy?
    and same goes for update manager all running by default in KDE.

    Please note this is a 100% fresh system and i can simulate this on each fresh install.

    Regards,
    Marco
    Your network card may have failed to be configured during the installation. Open up YaST and enter root user password then goto network devices / network settings and answer OK if you have Network Manager enabled. If you do have NM enabled, go to the Global Options Tab and select Traditional Method with ifup. Next go to the Overview Tab. If you find your network card listed as not configured. Select it and pick Edit. Make sure to Select Dynamic Address with DHCP. If you are using wireless, then you need to enter the pass-phrase and SSID. Pick next and once back in the original network settings, if you do have wireless or just wish to use Network Manager, go back to the Global Options Tab and select User Controlled with Network Manager and then press OK for your changes to take effect. You should then be able to get online and the basic problem is a network device that was not configured during the openSUSE 12.3 installation. Sometimes a restart is in order to get everything going.

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    Default Re: New installation with KDE and opensuse 12.3 :: Multiplepermission problems

    On 2013-05-07, jdmcdaniel3 <jdmcdaniel3@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > Your network card may have failed to be configured during the
    > installation.

    <SNIP>

    Ahh, it seems I'm misinterpreting the OP's description of the problem if that is the case. My understanding was that the
    network worked, but only when logging into KDE as root (*shock*). But it seems I might well stand corrected.

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    Default Re: New installation with KDE and opensuse 12.3 :: Multiplepermission problems

    Quote Originally Posted by flymail View Post
    On 2013-05-07, jdmcdaniel3 <jdmcdaniel3@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > Your network card may have failed to be configured during the
    > installation.

    <SNIP>

    Ahh, it seems I'm misinterpreting the OP's description of the problem if that is the case. My understanding was that the
    network worked, but only when logging into KDE as root (*shock*). But it seems I might well stand corrected.
    That's what I understood too. And, if logging on to KDE has been done before, the cause might be in there as well.
    The BIG RULE: never ever login as root, certainly not on a desktop environment.
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    Default Re: New installation with KDE and opensuse 12.3 :: Multiple permission problems

    I had the same problem and after searching and trying for several hours, this post helped for fixing all permission problems. There is also a bug report about that issue, but it could also be self-inflicted (e.g. overwriting old configuration files with .rpmnew ones, like maybe I did).

    You had a new install, I had an upgrade from openSUSE 12.2. If somebody else had this problem after an upgrade: Also remove the consolekit package since it is obsolete and systemd-logind is taking its place from 12.3 on.

    Hope this helps.

    Regards,

    Dennis

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