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    Default old files now have chinese names

    I recently found an old cd that I had burned about 10 years ago. It has
    several picture files and some videos. I can see all the picture
    files, but the video files will only play sound.

    The funny thing about it is that for some reason my linux OS is reading
    only 41 of the files, and has interpreted all the file names to be in
    chinese. When I open the disk in Windows XP, there are 290 files, and
    the file names are all in the original English as I named them 10 years ago.

    Any idea how to teach linux how to read this CD?

    Here is what the ls of the cd looks like from the linux side:

    Code:
    george@tribaltrekker:/var/run/media/george/021203_1649> ls -l
    total 19037
    -r-------- 1 george users  109668 Jun  3  2002 䵖䌰〱䘮䩐䜻
    -r-------- 1 george users  105898 Jun  3  2002 䵖䌰〲䘮䩐䜻
    -r-------- 1 george users 2529086 Oct  3  2002 䝏䑏䙗低?䵁㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  791012 Jan  2  2003 倱〱〰ㄵ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  714386 Jan  2  2003 倱〱〰ㄶ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  699714 Jan  2  2003 倱〱〰ㄷ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  697068 Jan  5  2003 倱〵〰ㄹ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  643831 Jan  5  2003 倱〵〰㈰?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  679256 Jan  5  2003 倱〵〰㈱?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  660372 Jan  5  2003 倱〵〰㈲?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  648042 Jan  5  2003 倱〵〰㈳?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  668856 Jan  5  2003 倱〵〰㈴?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  626846 Jan  6  2003 倱〵〰㈵?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  683950 Jan  5  2003 倱〵〰㈶?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   62016 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰〰?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   69440 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰〵?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   81035 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰??假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   80348 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄱ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   76928 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄲ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   74528 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄳ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   76800 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄴ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   70944 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄵ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   69472 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄶ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   68800 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄷ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   69728 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰ㄸ?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   65184 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰㈰?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   69440 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰㈲?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   67680 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰㈳?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   59232 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰㈴?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   60608 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰㈵?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   77280 Dec 14  2002 倱㈰㈰㈶?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  617214 Mar 13  2003 倳ㄲ〰〱?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  618521 Mar 13  2003 倳ㄲ〰〲?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users  557154 Mar 13  2003 倳ㄲ〰〳?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   69416 Feb 14  2003 䙅䈰㈰〴?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   74028 Feb 14  2003 䙅䈰㈰〵?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   75480 Feb 14  2003 䙅䈰㈰〶?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   64786 Feb 14  2003 䙅䈰㈰〷?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users   63841 Feb 14  2003 䙅䈰㈰〸?假㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users 3999454 Oct  3  2002 䩕協䥎卟?倳㬱
    -r-------- 1 george users 1886486 Apr 15  2002 䱉䝈呏䙔?䵁㬱
    Here is a screen shot of what the cd looks like opened in dolphin:
    http://picpaste.com/OldCD_chinese-YHuxc3yu.jpg

    And then here is a picture of the screen when opened in Windows XP (through Virtual Box):
    http://picpaste.com/OldCD_chinese1-dcQO7p0V.jpg

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    On 2013-05-06 01:58, golson765 wrote:
    > I recently found an old cd that I had burned about 10 years ago. It has
    > several picture files and some videos. I can see all the picture
    > files, but the video files will only play sound.
    >
    > The funny thing about it is that for some reason my linux OS is reading
    > only 41 of the files, and has interpreted all the file names to be in
    > chinese. When I open the disk in Windows XP, there are 290 files, and
    > the file names are all in the original English as I named them 10 years ago.


    Funny.

    > Any idea how to teach linux how to read this CD?


    Run the "mount" command, to see how it is actually mounted.

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    On 05/06/2013 08:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2013-05-06 01:58, golson765 wrote:
    >> I recently found an old cd that I had burned about 10 years ago. It has
    >> several picture files and some videos. I can see all the picture
    >> files, but the video files will only play sound.
    >>
    >> The funny thing about it is that for some reason my linux OS is reading
    >> only 41 of the files, and has interpreted all the file names to be in
    >> chinese. When I open the disk in Windows XP, there are 290 files, and
    >> the file names are all in the original English as I named them 10 years ago.

    > Funny.
    >
    >> Any idea how to teach linux how to read this CD?

    > Run the "mount" command, to see how it is actually mounted.
    >

    Well, weird, but now it is reading the cd like it is supposed to. I had
    loaded the cd several timesand always got the chinese names. Then in
    between I was doing other things, and I burned a dvd (it was a live kde
    dvd), and afterwards, it is now reading the old cd with the english
    names and all the files. Not sure what the difference is, and I did not
    check the mount command before in order to compare if there is a difference.

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    Maybe it is sign that the CD degraded and suffers from reading errors,
    maybe you should as quick as possible copy the content to a new CD or
    wherever you like to store it.

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    On 2013-05-06 14:24, Martin Helm wrote:
    > Maybe it is sign that the CD degraded and suffers from reading errors,
    > maybe you should as quick as possible copy the content to a new CD or
    > wherever you like to store it.


    Maybe, but I doubt it. There are several options when burning CDs. It
    can follow different sets of standards, joliet, rockridge... The font
    sets can be different. Maybe it is interpreting utf8 when it is cp850,
    or something of the kind.

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    Am 06.05.2013 14:58, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    > Maybe, but I doubt it. There are several options when burning CDs. It
    > can follow different sets of standards, joliet, rockridge... The font
    > sets can be different. Maybe it is interpreting utf8 when it is cp850,
    > or something of the kind.
    >

    But that does not explain why it works now and not before. The mount
    options chosen by the desktop should always be the same unless it has
    difficulties to read it.

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    On 2013-05-06 15:02, Martin Helm wrote:
    > Am 06.05.2013 14:58, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    >> Maybe, but I doubt it. There are several options when burning CDs. It
    >> can follow different sets of standards, joliet, rockridge... The font
    >> sets can be different. Maybe it is interpreting utf8 when it is cp850,
    >> or something of the kind.
    >>

    > But that does not explain why it works now and not before. The mount
    > options chosen by the desktop should always be the same unless it has
    > difficulties to read it.


    We can not know without knowing the mount options actually used.
    Yesterday I got updates in 12.3 related to udev, for example...

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    Am 06.05.2013 15:13, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    > We can not know without knowing the mount options actually used.
    > Yesterday I got updates in 12.3 related to udev, for example...
    >

    Completely right, we cannot know and golson765 obviously does also not
    know. An empty CD costs a few cent these days, I would not waste a
    minute of speculation and copy the readable content over to a new media,
    just in case and that is my whole point.
    I have seen stranger things than that with optical media which went south.

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    On 2013-05-06 15:53, Martin Helm wrote:
    > Am 06.05.2013 15:13, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    >> We can not know without knowing the mount options actually used.
    >> Yesterday I got updates in 12.3 related to udev, for example...
    >>

    > Completely right, we cannot know and golson765 obviously does also not
    > know. An empty CD costs a few cent these days, I would not waste a
    > minute of speculation and copy the readable content over to a new media,
    > just in case and that is my whole point.


    Looks sensible to me...

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    Default Re: old files now have chinese names

    On 05/07/2013 12:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2013-05-06 15:53, Martin Helm wrote:
    >> Am 06.05.2013 15:13, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    >>> We can not know without knowing the mount options actually used.
    >>> Yesterday I got updates in 12.3 related to udev, for example...
    >>>

    >> Completely right, we cannot know and golson765 obviously does also not
    >> know. An empty CD costs a few cent these days, I would not waste a
    >> minute of speculation and copy the readable content over to a new media,
    >> just in case and that is my whole point.

    > Looks sensible to me...
    >

    Well in any case, thanks for the advice. I do have the data backed up
    onother media now, so I am good to go.

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