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    Default Re: Multiple DE's

    On 2013-05-04 13:46, Knurpht wrote:
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    > I have KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE and RazorQt installed. All operational and
    > functional.


    Me too, all using the same home and user. I have kde 3, kde 4, gnome,
    xfce, and others I have forgotten about. No conflicts.

    The only conflict might be running two desktops under the same user at
    the same time. Some features, like sound, might have problems: who owns
    the sound device?

    > openSUSE is designed to be able to do this, so if it doesn't work like
    > expected, get the cause and report a bug.


    Yes, it has worked for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    The only conflict might be running two desktops under the same user at
    the same time. Some features, like sound, might have problems: who owns
    the sound device?
    As I mentioned, I do this all the time (effectively as a single seat multiseat configuration). When I change the volume in KDE, I watch it change in Gnome. Similarly if I change the volume in Gnome, I watch it change in KDE. There are no conflicts -- the volume is the same in both desktops.

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    Default Re: Multiple DE's

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-05-04 13:46, Knurpht wrote:
    >
    > I have KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE and RazorQt installed. All operational and
    > functional.


    Me too, all using the same home and user. I have kde 3, kde 4, gnome,
    xfce, and others I have forgotten about. No conflicts.

    The only conflict might be running two desktops under the same user at
    the same time. Some features, like sound, might have problems: who owns
    the sound device?

    > openSUSE is designed to be able to do this, so if it doesn't work like
    > expected, get the cause and report a bug.


    Yes, it has worked for decades.

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    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)
    What do you mean two DE's at the same time? All I know is that a logout is required to change between them, Idk if more than on can be used at the same time.

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    On 2013-05-05 22:46, amarildojr wrote:

    > What do you mean two DE's at the same time? All I know is that a logout
    > is required to change between them, Idk if more than on can be used at
    > the same time.


    The traditional method was to login as well in a text terminal, there type:

    Code:
    startx kde -- :1
    and presto, you get a second session under that user. You switch from
    one to the other via ctrl-alt-f7 or ctrl-alt-f8. And you could open a
    third one on ctrl-alt-f9

    The other method would be to go the logout menu, there choose the entry
    to switch to another user - not all desktops have it - and you get a new
    session. However, you can go from one to the other with the same
    keypresses as above. Both the old session and the new one are active, on
    different terminals.

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    If you have xfce installed with kde and you are booting into kde you can still have a feel of xfce inside kde.
    My kde desktop has this feel by enabling the xfce panel. I have the kde4 panel at the bottom of the monitor
    and the xfce4 panel at the top of the monitor.
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by conram View Post
    If you have xfce installed with kde and you are booting into kde you can still have a feel of xfce inside kde.
    My kde desktop has this feel by enabling the xfce panel. I have the kde4 panel at the bottom of the monitor
    and the xfce4 panel at the top of the monitor.
    Is there a way to make standard xfce or blackbox right-click menu work in KDE plasma session?
    I have achieved this in razorQT, by replacing razor desktop with blackbox, can't do it with KDE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finders View Post
    Is there a way to make standard xfce or blackbox right-click menu work in KDE plasma session?
    I have achieved this in razorQT, by replacing razor desktop with blackbox, can't do it with KDE.
    Hi,
    With xfce in kde the right click will not work if you run xfdesktop because it is underneath plasma.
    If you kill plasma then you can have the right click, it just safe to use the xfce panel if you want to
    have the feel a bit of xfce under kde.
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by amarildojr View Post
    What do you mean two DE's at the same time? All I know is that a logout is required to change between them, Idk if more than on can be used at the same time.
    You can have several logins at a time, GUI or CLI ones. On the so called logical consoles (switching from one the the other using Ctrl-Alt-Fn, the "real" console being at Ctrl-Alt-F1, normaly 2 - 6 being other CLI consoles, 7 normaly being thr (first) GUI session where you "normaly" work).

    From KDE you can open a new GUI session from the logout/reboot/shutdown button, take the Change User item.
    From a locked KDE session here is a similar possibility from the locked screen. This is that you can walk away to the toilet (of course locking your session) and another can walk in and start a session for him/herself without doing anything bad to your session and in the meantime keeping your chair warm (and drink your coffee ).

    I guess that other DEs have similar possibilities to use this X feature.

    And you can login there with the same username, but another DE if you like so.

    Also remote login in a GUI s possible. With a different or the same user, with a different or tha same DE.

    Oh, why do people always forget that Unix/Linux is a multi-user system? It would explain so many things if they thought about this.
    Henk van Velden

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    On 2013-05-07 15:06, hcvv wrote:
    > I guess that other DEs have similar possibilities to use this X
    > feature.


    Interestingly, my XFCE doesn't - or I can't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conram View Post
    Hi,
    With xfce in kde the right click will not work if you run xfdesktop because it is underneath plasma.
    If you kill plasma then you can have the right click, it just safe to use the xfce panel if you want to
    have the feel a bit of xfce under kde.
    Thanks, I've come to similar conclusion, but I thought there may be some other way.
    If I remove plasma from KDE session, there is blackbox, but no panel and no widgets.

    There probably is a way to add a mouse action to choose standard or custom menu, something like a plugin.
    Or even desktop layout, to display another DE from within plasma (something like Folder View)

    Unfortunately, I've no experience with such plugins, it's just an idea.

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