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    Wine a virus that is effected Windows( or both windows and linux) in Linux ( no other OS installed in the system ), will it effect Wine file or Linux file? Or both of them don't get hurt?

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    On 04/24/2013 01:36 PM, aususe wrote:
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    > Wine a virus that is effected Windows( or both windows and linux) in
    > Linux ( no other OS installed in the system ), will it effect Wine file
    > or Linux file? Or both of them don't get hurt?


    very difficult to understand your question....try again..
    but, there are no Linux viruses in the wild..

    there is plenty of rootkits but no viruses

    security is a big topic...i practice lots of things every day to make
    my system safe--none of those things are worrying about Windows viruses.

    well....i do not have WINE installed.

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    I recall 5 years or more years back, a user tested Wine to see if he could infect the applications on it with a Virus. He failed in all attempts except one, and the one attempt where he succeeded in having the virus install, it failed in its intended disruptive function (it did something else instead) and it was not able to propagate.

    That was many years back. Its possible with the improvements in wine (making it run more MS-Windows apps) and the improvements in Virus, that it may be more possible today for an MS-Windows app running under wine to catch a Virus. But that is speculation on my part and I have no evidence to support that speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aususe View Post
    Wine a virus that is effected Windows( or both windows and linux) in Linux ( no other OS installed in the system ), will it effect Wine file or Linux file? Or both of them don't get hurt?
    Wine= windows emulator for Linux. There is a *very remote* chance that *windows* virus will try exploit wine.
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    On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:36:01 +0000, aususe wrote:

    > Wine a virus that is effected Windows( or both windows and linux) in
    > Linux ( no other OS installed in the system ), will it effect Wine file
    > or Linux file? Or both of them don't get hurt?


    Just like any application on WINE, it depends on how it's implemented.
    If it uses Windows APIs that aren't implemented, no, it won't work.

    If it uses low-level DOS APIs (which used to be common), then no, it
    probably won't work because that's not emulated in the WINE APIs (as far
    as I know).

    Why do you ask?

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    On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:56:02 +0000, vazhavandan wrote:

    > Wine= windows emulator for Linux.


    WINE = "Wine Is Not an Emulator". That's the official WINE definition.

    WINE is an implementation of the win32 APIs. It doesn't emulate
    Windows. It implements Windows APIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:56:02 +0000, vazhavandan wrote:

    > Wine= windows emulator for Linux.


    WINE = "Wine Is Not an Emulator". That's the official WINE definition.

    WINE is an implementation of the win32 APIs. It doesn't emulate
    Windows. It implements Windows APIs.

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    Technically emulator may mean a virtual machine but
    Artha/wordnet says
    emulator ~ noun very rare
    1. someone who copies the words or behavior of another
    So in a sense it behaves like windows for the software which work on *top* of it. It is a emulator for me. Then again ,i might be wrong
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    Am 24.04.2013 20:36, schrieb vazhavandan:
    > Technically emulator may mean a virtual machine but Artha/wordnet
    > says[ QUOTE] emulator ~ noun very rare 1. someone who copies the
    > words or behavior of another So in a sense it behaves like windows
    > for the software which work on *top* of it. It is a emulator for me.
    > Then again ,i might be wrong
    >

    I think the "wine = wine is not an emulator" is the same kind of joke as
    "lame - lame ain't an mp3 encoder" while it is exactly that.

    On the topic, I think one of the most important reasons a normal windows
    virus does not work is that there are no classical windows system files,
    no windows services and nothing which run's as administrator. So a lot
    of infrastructure viruses depend upon is simply missing in wine.

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    On 04/24/2013 08:36 PM, vazhavandan wrote:
    > i might be wrong


    might be?
    Wine Is Not an Emulator

    read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

    where you will find your answer used to be correct, almost:
    instead of "Wine= windows emulator for Linux" it was:
    an acronym for WINdows Emulator.
    and, also you can read about why it is not an emulator..

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    On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:36:02 +0000, vazhavandan wrote:

    > Technically emulator may mean a virtual machine but Artha/wordnet says[
    > QUOTE]
    > emulator ~ noun very rare 1. someone who copies the words or behavior
    > of another So in a sense it behaves like windows for the software which
    > work on *top* of it. It is a emulator for me. Then again ,i might be
    > wrong


    Well, I'd be inclined to say that you are wrong, because the WINE team
    insists that they aren't an emulator, they're an API implementation
    layer. I think they get to make that distinction.

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