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    how to easily send a fax in kde??
    I installed every fax software in the KDE repo, but I cannot see any fax program to be launched, how can I send a fax??
    thnx, ciao, pier

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    Default Re: how to easily send a fax in kde

    You are here already for a long time. Thus you should now by now that we are always interested in which version of openSUSE you use (and similar information, like a version of KDE that differs from the one that came with that particular openSUSE version).

    Also you say "I cannot see any fax program to be launched,". As programs not normaly are launched out of their own will, that is rather normal, except when you mean that there is something (e.g. you clicking somewhere, or typing something) that should result in launching it. But then of course you have to tell us what you do.

    Also you tell you installed "every fax software in the KDE repo" (thus not the openSUSE OSS repo, see my remark above), but you fail to produce a list.

    In other words, you leave very much to be guessed by those who might try to help you.
    Henk van Velden

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    You are here already for a long time. Thus you should now by now that we are always interested in which version of openSUSE you use (and similar information, like a version of KDE that differs from the one that came with that particular openSUSE version).
    opensuse 12.3, KDE 4.10.2

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Also you say "I cannot see any fax program to be launched,". As programs not normaly are launched out of their own will, that is rather normal, except when you mean that there is something (e.g. you clicking somewhere, or typing something) that should result in launching it. But then of course you have to tell us what you do.
    if in the kickoff I search for "fax" nothing appear, and inside its meander I didn't find any software related to fax, like halyfax and mgetty and sendfax, so I launched some of the installed software from konsole but the answer was that I need to be superuser, so I suspected I was doing something of wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Also you tell you installed "every fax software in the KDE repo" (thus not the openSUSE OSS repo, see my remark above), but you fail to produce a list.
    here the list of software found in opensuse repositories I tried to install
    g3utils 1.1.36-50.1.1
    hplip 3.12.11-2.2.1
    hylafax 6.0.5-4.1.1
    hylafax-client 6.0.5-4.1.1
    libspandsp2 0.0.6pre20-4.1.1
    mgetty 1.1.36-50.1.1
    capi4hylafax (01.03.00-167.1.1)
    capifax (0.7.3-6.1)
    capisuite (0.4.5-261.1.1)
    ffgtk (0.7.8-5.15)
    kdegraphics3-fax (3.5.10-14.1.2)
    libcapifax-devel (0.7.3-6.1)
    libcapifax0 (0.7.3-6.1)
    libspandsp2-32bit (0.0.6pre20-4.1.1)
    sendfax (1.1.36-50.1.1)
    sfftobmp (3.1.1-123.1.1)
    sffview (0.4-272.1.1)
    texlive-facsimile (2012.60.1.0svn21328-5.2.1)
    texlive-lettre (2012.60.2.346svn21400-4.2.1)
    whfc (1.2.3-170.1.1)
    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    In other words, you leave very much to be guessed by those who might try to help you.
    sorry for the lack of info...., my software to trasfere my mind directly to the keyboard shouldnt worked very well....
    thnx, ciao, pier

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    Default Re: how to easily send a fax in kde

    Thanks for your additions.

    The fact that you tried to call one or more of them from the console is very good. But we allways want to see what happens then. We do not like story telling. Thus you should use the # button from the toolbar in the post editor to get CODE tags and copy/paste from your console directly in between there. The prompt of your CLI session, the command you give and the output and the next prompt. We want to see what you see and not to depend on your story on what you think you see.
    Henk van Velden

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Thanks for your additions.

    The fact that you tried to call one or more of them from the console is very good. But we allways want to see what happens then. We do not like story telling. Thus you should use the # button from the toolbar in the post editor to get CODE tags and copy/paste from your console directly in between there. The prompt of your CLI session, the command you give and the output and the next prompt. We want to see what you see and not to depend on your story on what you think you see.
    ok,
    I tried wit hylafax:
    Code:
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~> hylafax
    If 'hylafax' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
        cnf hylafax
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~> cnf hylafax
    hylafax: command not found                        
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~>
    then uninstalled hylafax (becouse yast proposed this action or do not install sendfax) and installed sendfax
    Code:
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~> sendfax
    Absolute path to 'sendfax' is '/usr/sbin/sendfax', so running it may require superuser privileges (eg. root).
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~>
    then as I read that sendfax is related to mgetty I tried mgetty
    Code:
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~> mgetty
    If 'mgetty' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
        cnf mgetty
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~> cnf mgetty
                          
    Program 'mgetty' is present in package 'mgetty', which is installed on your system.
    
    Absolute path to 'mgetty' is '/usr/sbin/mgetty', so running it may require superuser privileges (eg. root).
    
    pla@suse-tumbleweed:~>
    manythnx, ciao, :-), pier

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    Default Re: how to easily send a fax in kde

    On 2013-04-15 14:16, pier andreit wrote:
    > I tried wit hylafax:


    Hold on: you can not start hylafax like that.

    Hylafax is a service, not an application. It runs a daemon and a
    plethora of helpers.

    And it is not simple fax software. It is, I believe, the best fax
    software available in Linux, but it is far from simple. You can do
    things like sending a fax from any machine in the network, or get them
    on any machine. It is server class software.


    sendfax - if it is "/usr/bin/sendfax", forget it. It is just a frontend
    to submit a fax to the hylafax daemon. If it is the other thing, like
    google says: “Mgetty + Sendfax - a reliable and proven fax send and
    receive solution”, then forget it again, it is even more difficult.


    If still you want to setup hylfax, I'll help you. I have not done it in
    12.3 with systemd, only with systemv. Still... it should work.


    There are standalone fax apps in Linux, that should be easier. I have
    never used them, so I can't very well advise you.

    Some links I have collected:

    Code:
    
    > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/tutorial-efax-gtk-setup-using-hsfmodem-conexant-and-open-office.-637143/

    Oops, no, only one link, the rest are about hylafax.

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    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

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    First I must mention that I use no Fax sending program, thus I can only explain what I see here in the hope to make more understndable to you what you are doing.

    First I see you have the word tumbleweed in your system name. When that means indeed that you are using Tumbleweed, why didn't you start this thread in the Tumbleweed forum. There is specialy a Tumbleweed forum, so that Tumbleweed users can help Tumbleweed users and to avoid non-Tumbleweed users to give advice that pobably is not applicable to Tumbleweed users. I can add that I am not a Tumbleweed user.

    You call the program hylafax, but it is clear that that program is nowhere to be found on the places in your system that normaly hold programs to be used by users.
    I searched for hylafax in YaST > software management. The comment there says it is a "fax server". Server most often means that it iss a system program. System programs are not started by end-users. TThe best chance is that (after you installed it) you look in YaST > System > System services (runlevel) to see if it is in the list there and then switch it on there.
    Also trying to read the man hylafax page might tell you what to do.
    And a simple Google search for hylafax leads to hylafax.org where there is a documentation button.

    You call the program sendfax. This one is found, but it is in a place that is normaly for system programs only and not normaly be used by an ed-user. Again did you try to read any documentation about it? Like
    Code:
    man sendfax
    And when I do a Google search for man sendfax I get so many results, that this must work on your system also.

    How about reading some of that documentation and then coming back with a question when you got realy stuck?

    BTW, do you want meyto move this to Tumbleweed? I can do it for you.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: how to easily send a fax in kde

    How to send a fax depends of course also on the hardware used (serial
    modem, fax printer, capi isdn card).
    For example I send a fax without any installation of anything, it is
    just a HP printer with fax capabilities, I plug it in and print to the
    fax printer that's it.
    I just come up with this example as this thread contains no visible info
    about what is used on the hardware side to send the fax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    First I must mention that I use no Fax sending program, thus I can only explain what I see here in the hope to make more understndable to you what you are doing.

    First I see you have the word tumbleweed in your system name. When that means indeed that you are using Tumbleweed, why didn't you start this thread in the Tumbleweed forum. There is specialy a Tumbleweed forum, so that Tumbleweed users can help Tumbleweed users and to avoid non-Tumbleweed users to give advice that pobably is not applicable to Tumbleweed users. I can add that I am not a Tumbleweed user.
    thanx, tumbleweed is only in the name, I'm using 12.3 standard with kde 4.10.2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_helm View Post
    How to send a fax depends of course also on the hardware used (serial
    modem, fax printer, capi isdn card).
    For example I send a fax without any installation of anything, it is
    just a HP printer with fax capabilities, I plug it in and print to the
    fax printer that's it.
    I just come up with this example as this thread contains no visible info
    about what is used on the hardware side to send the fax.
    so, your multifunction printer works as fax in linux opensuse 12.3??? could you please give me the model???
    I'm trying to use a modem, usb modem, it should works with linux, in this moment I havent the model but it comes with linux drivers and pluging in it seems to be recognized ...

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