Installation Help - AMD Catalyst for 12.3

I am a total Opensuse newbie who has used Ubuntu 12.10 (running Cinnamon). I dual boot with Windows 7.

Is there a guide to install the ATI drivers for my video card (5870)? Do they work in 12.3? I rather not blow out my install of Ubuntu unless I have some idea what I’m doing. I seem to be spinning my wheels looking for an answer - any help is appreciated. Thanks.

On Wed 13 Mar 2013 06:06:02 PM CDT, CHAZDG51 wrote:

I am a total Opensuse newbie who has used Ubuntu 12.10 (running
Cinnamon). I dual boot with Windows 7.

Is there a guide to install the ATI drivers for my video card (5870)?
Do they work in 12.3? I rather not blow out my install of Ubuntu unless
I have some idea what I’m doing. I seem to be spinning my wheels
looking for an answer - any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Hi
In a nutshell no, the 1.13 version won’t work. You would need to build
a 1.12 version for openSUSE 12.3 and not sure if that would even be an
option…

So what won’t work with the radeon driver?


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.1-desktop
up 4:05, 4 users, load average: 0.17, 0.70, 0.73
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

Not sure it will or won’t, I tried the RC candidate and the video card ran non stop and hot. That won’t work. I was looking for some tutorial to install the ATI driver or fglrx before I even try to install Opensuse 12.3. Does something like that exist? Thanks.

On Thu 14 Mar 2013 04:26:03 PM CDT, CHAZDG51 wrote:

malcolmlewis;2534647 Wrote:
> Hi
> In a nutshell no, the 1.13 version won’t work. You would need to build
> a 1.12 version for openSUSE 12.3 and not sure if that would even be an
> option…
>
> So what won’t work with the radeon driver?
>

Not sure it will or won’t, I tried the RC candidate and the video card
ran non stop and hot. That won’t work. I was looking for some tutorial
to install the ATI driver or fglrx before I even try to install Opensuse
12.3. Does something like that exist? Thanks.

Hi
Not sure, I have a HP ProBook 4525s with an ATI HD4200 series, doesn’t
seem to be running hot…

I run GNOME and use an extension to control it;
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/356/radeon-power-profile-manager/

I also upgraded the xf86-video-ati to overcome an issue;
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799117

There is a SDB;
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:AMD_fglrx_legacy

For 12.3…
http://geeko.ioda.net/mirror/amd-fglrx-legacy/openSUSE_12.3/AMD%20fglx-legacy%20is%20not%20supported%20on%2012.3


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.1-desktop
up 12:10, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.12, 0.11
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

Thanks for the links, but I’m more confused now. Am I wrong to conclude that there is no way to install the ATI driver from AMD’s website? And unless I am running a legacy video card, fglrx won’t work? However, if I run a Gnome extension which didn’t work with Ubuntu, I can control the video card fan from running crazy. Are those my options are am I missing something? Sorry for being so dense about this.

On Thu 14 Mar 2013 06:46:04 PM CDT, CHAZDG51 wrote:

malcolmlewis;2535097 Wrote:
> Hi
> Not sure, I have a HP ProBook 4525s with an ATI HD4200 series, doesn’t
> seem to be running hot…
>
> I run GNOME and use an extension to control it;
> Radeon Power Profile Manager - GNOME Shell Extensions
>
> I also upgraded the xf86-video-ati to overcome an issue;
> Access Denied
>
> There is a SDB;
> ‘SDB:AMD fglrx legacy - openSUSE’
> (Archive:SDB:AMD fglrx legacy - openSUSE Wiki)
>
> For 12.3…
> http://tinyurl.com/cmp585q
>

Thanks for the links, but I’m more confused now. Am I wrong to
conclude that there is no way to install the ATI driver from AMD’s
website? And unless I am running a legacy video card, fglrx won’t work?
However, if I run a Gnome extension which didn’t work with Ubuntu, I
can control the video card fan from running crazy. Are those my options
are am I missing something? Sorry for being so dense about this.

Hi
No, your not wrong. If your running a legacy card, fglrx will not work
with the newer version of Xorg, you need to use the oss driver, else you
could try rolling back the Xorg version to the one from 12.2 but have
no idea how that would go…

The extension I quoted appears to be working for me as in setting a
power profile. My fan doesn’t go crazy, I can hear it working…

What hardware and gfx card? What tools do you use to monitor?


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.1-desktop
up 14:46, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.05
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

If you check Sebastian Siebert’s blog (it is in German), he mentions that the legacy drivers can not be installed on openSUSE 12.3. There is a conflict with the xserver version 1.13.x, the legacy driver works only up to xserver version 1.12.x

The regular driver 13.1 work just fine when I use his script.

If my card is an ATI 5870, a legacy driver would not work, but the ATI 13.1 driver does work. Where can I find a point by point tutorial to install it in Opensuse 12.3? I really don’t see the instructions when searching Google. What am I missing here?

On Thu 14 Mar 2013 08:56:02 PM CDT, CHAZDG51 wrote:

swannema;2535175 Wrote:
> If you check Sebastian Siebert’s ‘blog’
> (http://www.sebastian-siebert.de/) (it is in German), he mentions that
> the legacy drivers can not be installed on openSUSE 12.3. There is a
> conflict with the xserver version 1.13.x, the legacy driver works only
> up to xserver version 1.12.x
>
> The regular driver 13.1 work just fine when I use his script.
If my card is an ATI 5870, a legacy driver would not work, but the ATI
13.1 driver does work. Where can I find a point by point tutorial to
install it in Opensuse 12.3? I really don’t see the instructions when
searching Google. What am I missing here?

Hi
Ahh this one then: SDB:AMD fglrx - openSUSE Wiki


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.1-desktop
up 17:56, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.08, 0.06
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

Correct, best option is to follow the procedure that has the head line: Building yourself the rpm

Okay this is pure **** (sorry) the user tell 58xxx card so this one work with normal amd-fglrx

Why not using the repo, which is maintained and workable?

OK, as I really have never used Opensuse, is the repo part of Yast?

Edit: I found it I think. Is this it? http://geeko.ioda.net/mirror/amd-fglrx/openSUSE_12.3/x86_64/

On Fri 15 Mar 2013 01:06:02 PM CDT, bruno friedmann wrote:

malcolmlewis;2534647 Wrote:
> Hi
> In a nutshell no, the 1.13 version won’t work. You would need to build
> a 1.12 version for openSUSE 12.3 and not sure if that would even be an
> option…
>
> So what won’t work with the radeon driver?
>

<snip>the user tell 58xxx card so this one
work with normal amd-fglrx

Hi
Yes, that was my bad for missing that snippet :wink:


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.1-desktop
up 9:58, 3 users, load average: 0.09, 0.05, 0.05
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

Because this way works also with the Kernel 3.8.x

I would prefer do go this way for Kernel 3.8.3 (obviously a different thread). If and when I do this, should I use ATI Driver 13.1 or 13.2 Beta when building the rpm?

FYI - I ask many questions before doing anything so I have some understanding of the process, especially with an OS I have no knowledge of, otherwise I don’t do it.

Currently the official AMD driver is not working with the 3.8.x kernel, you will have to use Sebastian Sieberts(he is in close contact to AMD) script to make it work. I just updated to 3.8.2 without any problems. I suggest you also check the thread from please_try_again about the ATI driver. Search for atiupgrade. I use this also, because the fglrx driver will then automatically rebuild after a kernel upgrade when I reboot. You still need to use Sebastians script to install the driver first.

Yikes, this sounds mighty ugly. Further, the lack of detail troubles me. I can’t say I feel comfortable installing Opensuse without some kind of comfort zone knowing what I am doing and a clear procedure to install. Sebastion’s blog (which is almost two months old since last updated) is the most coherent piece of the puzzle. I think I understand why Opensuse has not been a more popular distro. Sorry guys but looking from the outside, Opensuse seems like not a good option. I may give it a go, but I have very little hope of success.

If you wish to have an openSUSE version, where the proprietary AMD driver works well, then install the tried and tested openSUSE-12.2. You can download it here: software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 12.2 It works well. The procedure for installation is clear. There is support for 12.2, likely until openSUSE-13.1 (?) appears

Don’t be fixed on version 12.3. I happen to really like version12.3 (I have it on my laptop as the main openSUSE and I have it on test partitions on two other PCs), but … I still use version 12.1 !! on two of my PCs, although I concede I will likely update them to version 12.2 in the near future. I don’t know when I will update them for 12.3 but I do know that I am in NO hurry.

Well he confused me with that. If he had said he was using an HD 58xx, I would have pointed him to the one click install.

Thats what I used for my hd 5750.