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    I think this article i found in planet openSUSE will clear things up Ubuntu: Reflections from a Geeko | /sys/rich
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    Default Re: Novell's association with openSUSE

    Quote Originally Posted by vazhavandan View Post
    “openSUSE is the distro of the community, by the community, for the community” or "openSUSE is Linux for open Minds"
    That's a good line. I like it

    Quote Originally Posted by stakanov View Post
    There was probably an original "hidden agenda" with the agreement but after having been forced to maintain the patents (afaik) that novell held as GPL, there is not much sense to discuss this. Besides, Microsoft makes a huge money with distributing and servicing Linux. So a working distribution that is in a certain way "beta-testing" for their consumers will come handy. For sure the difficult situation of the desktop KDE (from 4.0 to 4.5 at least) will have made loose more users to openSUSE I guess, than the agreement did ever.
    What may be true is that some features may be "delayed" or not implemented to avoid cannibalism on the commercial version. Still, the main part of income source is service, not so much the software. This is where free software comes not any more as "for free" and becomes a lucrative business.

    At the end of the day, if you want to worry about something, you should worry about the absurdity of the situation with UEFI (restricted boot vs. secure boot).
    And yes, it is again about MS.
    Great points. I would also agree that UEFI is more to worry about. I have heard lots of people having problems because of it. Makes me angry.

    Quote Originally Posted by vazhavandan View Post
    I think this article i found in planet openSUSE will clear things up Ubuntu: Reflections from a Geeko | /sys/rich
    Ah yes, I have read that article. It's a great article.


    Thanks for the replies guys. I pretty much feel the same way you all do, I just thought I would get your opinions. Thanks

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    Default Re: Novell's association with openSUSE

    On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:36:05 +0000, stakanov wrote:

    > There was probably an original "hidden agenda" with the agreement but
    > after having been forced to maintain the patents (afaik) that novell
    > held as GPL, there is not much sense to discuss this


    The agenda wasn't hidden at all. It was a broad collaboration agreement,
    and Microsoft wanted to include some patent-related language, and Novell
    agreed to. Novell never admitted that they felt anything in Linux
    infringed (a statement the Novell CEO at the time made at the
    announcement; a statement that Steve Ballmer explicitly reiterated in his
    remarks during that same annnouncement - that Novell does not believe
    Linux infringes Microsoft's IP in any way.)

    The collaboration agreement was the main thing; the patent cross-
    licensing/protection agreement was really a minor thing. Novell agreed
    to it because some of Novell's customers were afraid of suits like the SCO
    end-user lawsuits (like the Autozone suit) and wanted to make sure that
    they weren't going to be sued by Microsoft for using SUSE in the unlikely
    event that Microsoft decided to start suing their own customers for using
    Linux.

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    Default Re: Novell's association with openSUSE

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham_Radio View Post
    anyone looking for a Free (As in freedom, since distro's like Ubuntu ship with non-free software) Linux OS? I heard once that you never should use a distro that is backed by a large company because they might impact what happens with the distro. (Like what is currently happening with Ubuntu)
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