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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-20 14:36, flymail wrote:
    > On 2013-02-19, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:



    >> I would like to get it working with banshee as well, because as I use
    >> XFCE, a gnome application is lighter. But amarok is a very nice application.

    >
    > I use Banshee and successfully play albums in the correct track order. If you right-click `Music' and select
    > Preferences, under the `Source Specific' tab you can specify the hierarchy (I use Album Artist/Album).


    Ok, done that. The CD I mentioned previously appears as four items, one
    for each artist in the CD. It should be a single entry.

    > Under the tools
    > menu, you can `Fix MetaData' which should sort out dependencies associated with multiple artists (although I never have
    > had to use this).


    Done that, no change.

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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-20, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > Ok, done that. The CD I mentioned previously appears as four items, one
    > for each artist in the CD. It should be a single entry.
    >
    >> Under the tools
    >> menu, you can `Fix MetaData' which should sort out dependencies associated with multiple artists (although I never have
    >> had to use this).

    >
    > Done that, no change.
    >


    Ok now I think I understand the problem you are having. Assuming your collection is in mp3 format, you need to edit the
    tags for Banshee to deal with multiple artists (it doesn't seem to be as smart as Amarok). If you ctrl/shift-select all
    tracks belonging to a single album, and use right-click to edit track information, you can tick the check-box for
    flagging a compilation and harmonise the artist field. If Banshee doesn't correctly order them (I don't possess such an
    album to test this), you can over-rule the track ordering in the same dialog box.

    An alternative solution is the edit the tags using a devoted tag editor such as easytag, which is listed in Packman's
    repo.

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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-20 16:35, flymail wrote:
    > On 2013-02-20, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:


    > Ok now I think I understand the problem you are having. Assuming your collection is in mp3 format, you need to edit the
    > tags for Banshee to deal with multiple artists (it doesn't seem to be as smart as Amarok). If you ctrl/shift-select all
    > tracks belonging to a single album, and use right-click to edit track information, you can tick the check-box for
    > flagging a compilation and harmonise the artist field. If Banshee doesn't correctly order them (I don't possess such an
    > album to test this), you can over-rule the track ordering in the same dialog box.
    >
    > An alternative solution is the edit the tags using a devoted tag editor such as easytag, which is listed in Packman's
    > repo.


    Actually, I did edit the tags of that CD tracks yesterday with easytag
    (and then forced both amarok and banshee to do a full rescan). The entry
    "Album artist" is the same for all the tracks. However, each track has a
    different "Artist", obviously, and this can not be changed because it
    would be wrong.

    This CD is just an example I'm using for working this out, it happens to
    several other CDs.


    Actually, for classical music the tagging system is wrong. We put the
    artist for a CD of the Third symphony as "Beethoven", instead of using
    the "Composer" tag as it would be right. The artist should show the
    director or the orchestra playing it.

    However, when I play it on an mp3 player I want to see "third symphony
    by Beethoven", but such gadgets do not allow users to choose the tags to
    display. At least I have not seen it.

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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-20, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > Actually, I did edit the tags of that CD tracks yesterday with easytag
    > (and then forced both amarok and banshee to do a full rescan). The entry
    > "Album artist" is the same for all the tracks. However, each track has a
    > different "Artist", obviously, and this can not be changed because it
    > would be wrong.
    >


    Sorry I was not clear enough. The key to getting the tag information correct within Banshee is flagging each track as
    part of a compilation. Once you've ticked `Compilation Album Artist', a new field is enabled that allows you to
    harmonise the tracks using a common field variable such as `Pavarotti and others' without having to edit the original
    track artist information (which I would agree would be wrong to modify). If the same album is seen by Banshee to share
    identical values for `Compilation Album Artist' then it is treated as a single album.


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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-20 17:10, flymail wrote:
    > On 2013-02-20, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    >> Actually, I did edit the tags of that CD tracks yesterday with easytag
    >> (and then forced both amarok and banshee to do a full rescan). The entry
    >> "Album artist" is the same for all the tracks. However, each track has a
    >> different "Artist", obviously, and this can not be changed because it
    >> would be wrong.
    >>

    >
    > Sorry I was not clear enough. The key to getting the tag information correct within Banshee is flagging each track as
    > part of a compilation. Once you've ticked `Compilation Album Artist', a new field is enabled that allows you to
    > harmonise the tracks using a common field variable such as `Pavarotti and others' without having to edit the original
    > track artist information (which I would agree would be wrong to modify). If the same album is seen by Banshee to share
    > identical values for `Compilation Album Artist' then it is treated as a single album.


    I see now the one you mean. However, with banshee I have to edit that 16
    times, one per track. I tried that, some days ago.

    Easytag does not display that tag field. Instead, it has "Album artist",
    which is indeed armonized, and is enough for amarok, but not for
    banshee. I thus understand it is a banshee bug.

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    On 2013-02-21, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > I see now the one you mean. However, with banshee I have to edit that 16
    > times, one per track.


    I agree it's not ideal. You can however group-select tracks (using ctrl/shift-select) and edit the compilation album
    artist to ensure they have a common value, but it's a little cumbersome.



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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-21 10:12, flymail wrote:
    > On 2013-02-21, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    >> I see now the one you mean. However, with banshee I have to edit that 16
    >> times, one per track.

    >
    > I agree it's not ideal. You can however group-select tracks (using ctrl/shift-select) and edit the compilation album
    > artist to ensure they have a common value, but it's a little cumbersome.


    It is cumbersome, that's the problem. It appears that I have to do it
    track by track, non on bulk. And I would have to add it manually on new CDs.

    I'll have to use amarok only, or clementine. Amarok also displays the
    cover photo of the CD, which is nice while choosing one to play.

    At least in Linux we have choice :-)

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    On 2013-02-21, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > It is cumbersome, that's the problem. It appears that I have to do it
    > track by track, non on bulk. And I would have to add it manually on new CDs.


    I have never had to go so for CDs with single artists, so it probably depends on the nature of your music collection how
    cumbersome!

    > I'll have to use amarok only, or clementine. Amarok also displays the
    > cover photo of the CD, which is nice while choosing one to play.


    Hehe - Banshee also shows the cover art but I think Amarok is nicer.

    > At least in Linux we have choice :-)


    - I was hoping to find a console-based player (perhaps adaptations of mplayer) that can retrieve mp3 tags and
    metadata to order album tracks automatically so that a single album can be played along the lines of `mplayer
    ~/mp3/artist/album/*.mp3'. Alas, among the choices I see no solution for this short of coding it myself!


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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-21 13:21, flymail wrote:
    > - I was hoping to find a console-based player (perhaps adaptations of mplayer) that can retrieve mp3 tags and
    > metadata to order album tracks automatically so that a single album can be played along the lines of `mplayer
    > ~/mp3/artist/album/*.mp3'. Alas, among the choices I see no solution for this short of coding it myself!


    I have used such a thing years ago! But I don't have the name in my notes.

    Looking for the word "play" in yast, I see cmus:


    cmus - Curses-based Ogg, MP3, WMA, and WAV Player

    CMus is a small and fast text mode music player for Linux and *BSD.
    Supported file formats include FLAC, Ogg, MP3 (via libmad), wav, and all
    module formats supported by libmodplug. Included output plugins are
    ALSA, ARTS, OSS, and Sun. It can be controlled through a UNIX socket.
    Background playlist loading and a metadata cache make loading files very
    fast. Playqueue, playlist filters and directory browser. Three playlist
    views are available: artist/album/track, shuffle list, and sorted list.
    There are three play modes: all, artist, album.


    Another possibility is gst123 - the name of the old program I recollect
    had 123 in it, too.


    I have tried 'cmus' just a bit. Commands work like "vi", they start with
    ":". awkward! Messages in an xterm are yellow on white, unreadable. It
    is designed for a black terminal, I guess.


    I expected something easier, with a menu, like 'mc' or 'pine'.

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    Carlos E. R.
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    Default Re: Playing an album entirely with amarok or banshee

    On 2013-02-21, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > Looking for the word "play" in yast, I see cmus:


    I didn't see it. After a search I could find it listed inunder the Packman Multimedia repo.

    > I have tried 'cmus' just a bit. Commands work like "vi", they start with
    > ":". awkward! Messages in an xterm are yellow on white, unreadable.


    Looks perfect - thanks for the heads up!

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