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    Default KDE looks like Windows Ten Years Ago!

    Greetings all,

    I am a Mageia refugee, who has used Mandrake/Mandrive/Mageia for about twelve years, but had to change as Mageia 2 just doesn't work on my laptop. (Still using it on my desktop.) I use Linux every day in my job, I am now completely Windows-free, so it simply has to work for me!

    So, last night I installed the using the KDE CD and am really very impressed indeed with how easy and intuitive every was to get going. I've had a slight hiccough with WiFi, but fingers crossed that's ok now, got loads of apps installed I need, such as Qt Creator and the repositories so far seem replete with goodies!

    The one thing I am finding a little disappointing is the look and feel of KDE. It looks like Windows did ten years or so ago! I did have to completely delete the ~/.kde4 directory on forst boot as there was nothing on the desktop at all and that got me going. However, it really doesn't have that beautiful polished KDE4 look about it. More llike a Windows 2000 with lots of square edges vibe going on!

    Would be most grateful for assistance making KDE look as good as it should. Many thanks.

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    Default Re: KDE looks like Windows Ten Years Ago!

    Quote Originally Posted by DiBosco View Post
    The one thing I am finding a little disappointing is the look and feel of KDE. It looks like Windows did ten years or so ago!
    You might want to be more specific. Because I don't see the resemblance.

    Windows 10 years ago: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ows_XP_SP3.png
    KDE: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...de-desktop.png

    The kde screenshot above is the default openSUSE look. Also you might want to look here for an idea about kde themes: Eyecandy for your KDE-Desktop - KDE-Look.org

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    On 01/29/2013 10:46 AM, DiBosco wrote:
    > I did have to
    > completely delete the ~/.kde4 directory on forst boot as there was
    > nothing on the desktop at all


    sounds to me like you had corrupt install media *or* some kind of
    disasterous error during you install--because, the default install of
    openSUSE 12. WAIT!! you didn't say which version you installed..

    but, any of the supported version do _not_ begin life with "nothing on
    the desktop at all"

    so, i ask did you md5 or sha1 check the downloaded iso prior to burning
    the install media (as discussed here:
    http://en.opensuse.org/SDBownload_help#Checksums) ??

    and did you then on first boot let the media self-check for errors by
    selecting "Check Installation Media" (like seen here for CD
    http://tinyurl.com/b856ekd, or here for DVD http://tinyurl.com/3qde66h) ??

    if you did not you probably should now. [Garbage in, garbage out!]

    if you did those thing and had good media, then you must have had some
    errors during install, and you should get that fixed before you begin
    customizing the desktop looks..

    otherwise just go to Personal Settings - Configure Desktop and then to
    (for example) Application Appearance, Desktop Effects, Workspace
    Appearance, Window Behavior and others where i'd expect you to find more
    the knobs and switches than was in the last Mandrake i used (8.1)..

    and, i usually find some interesting info hiding behind the "Help"
    button on every page in Configure Desktop, as well you might find some
    use for
    http://doc.opensuse.org/documentatio....kdequick.html

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    Default Re: KDE looks like Windows Ten Years Ago!

    Thanks for the replies.

    Above is a snapshot of the screen, where you can see it looking very old fashioned, square graphics etc.

    As far as it being abnormal to find corrupted desktop on fresh install, I have always, but always found when I install a KDE based distribution over the top of an existing one (not formatting /opt and /home, obviously, then the KDE desktop is corrupt in one way or another and the easy way is to delete ~/.kde4 or there's a applet file you can sometimes delete to solve the issue. It's not a corrupt medium at all. I've burned enough ISOs over the years to check that. There were no installation errors at all, this is totally normal for KDE4.

    It's the very latest version I have installed, I downloaded it last night.

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    On 01/29/2013 12:16 PM, DiBosco wrote:
    > It's the very latest version I have installed, I downloaded it last
    > night.


    then maybe you downloaded openSUSE 12.3 which is still in Beta, and that
    could be your problem.

    still, it is abnormal to install openSUSE with KDE and have an empty
    desktop....

    and, i guess you know that in some situations email will be in
    ~/.kde4 so most here suggest not to delete the whole directory, but
    instead rename it....in any event deleting it is like using a 10 kilo
    sledge hammer to drive in a tack.

    ymmv...but, please in the future always say your version...it makes a
    difference in the answers--this is a fast moving distro (some answers
    you can find in the forum for 12.1 will *not* work on 12.2)

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    Personally, the look and feel of KDE is what I love the most! I find that it looks as modern as Windows 7, if not even better. I recently moved from Win 7 to openSUSE too, and even more recently deleted Windows entirely from my system.

    BUT, I don't use the theme and visuals I see in your screenshot... that one looks like older versions of KDE. I use the Oxygen Transparent window style, with Blur compositing for that Aero look. I also use more desktop effects and custom themes. Here are some of my older configurations... should prove how good KDE can look when configured properly (warning, My Little Pony wallpapers!)

    Image 1: http://i45.tinypic.com/zjxzeh.png

    Image 2: http://i47.tinypic.com/qs0fon.png
    openSUSE Tumbleweed x64, KDE Framework 5

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    Default Re: KDE looks like Windows Ten Years Ago!

    @dd, yes it's 12.2, it's not a beta, but your point is taken. I did try deleting the relevant appletsrc file which has worked in the past sometimes, but in this case it didn't help. Hence getting ride of the whole .kde4 directory contents!

    @MirceaKitsune Yes, I could not agree more. I am typing from my Mageia desktop and it looks gorgeous. This is why I am puzzled that this SuSE install looks so old fashioned. It's not a comment on KDE4 in general, it's a comment on this installation or possibly(?) SuSE's implementation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiBosco View Post
    @MirceaKitsune Yes, I could not agree more. I am typing from my Mageia desktop and it looks gorgeous. This is why I am puzzled that this SuSE install looks so old fashioned. It's not a comment on KDE4 in general, it's a comment on this installation or possibly(?) SuSE's implementation.
    Ah, I see. That's weird then... by default openSUSE should activate the Oxygen theme for KDE. For Oxygen *Transparent* you need to get it manually... I recommend you do since it's a lot prettier with blur compositing.

    Go to Configure Desktop -> Workspace Appearance -> Windows Decorations. You should see Oxygen in that list... select it and click Apply. If you don't see Oxygen there you might have a broken installation of KDE or the oxygen package missing for some reason (I don't know its exact name sadly). Does this work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiBosco View Post
    ...but always found when I install a KDE based distribution over the top of an existing one (not formatting /opt and /home, obviously, then the KDE desktop is corrupt in one way or another and the easy way is to delete ~/.kde4 or there's a applet file you can sometimes delete to solve the issue.
    Just a thought, KDE 3 (very Windows XP like) used to install into /opt, so what have you got in there? I don't think it's common practice on this distro to preserve /opt across new installations.

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