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  1. #151
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    Default Re: ZeroFill, a good idea?

    On 02/18/2013 05:06 PM, amarildojr wrote:
    > But my fear is with online attacks, I'm currently testing a Windows
    > Loader along with some cracked games


    no need to worry about online attacks, you are self-attacking your
    system by using cracked games...

    i mean, one should never use software from untrusted sources!

    and how can anyone trust a software source who is _known_ to be thieves?

    can you ever be sure a game was not only kracked but also used as a
    trojan to introduce malware, worms, keyloggers etc etc etc

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    Default Re: ZeroFill, a good idea?

    That's why I'm **testin**.

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    Default Re: ZeroFill, a good idea?

    On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:46:01 +0000, amarildojr wrote:

    > That's why I'm **testin**.


    Just to be absolutely clear - we cannot condone nor support someone who
    is using pirated software or engaging in other illegal activity.

    If your purpose here is to figure out how to run WINE safely so you can
    use pirated software, then this discussion is at an end.

    Jim

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    Default Re: ZeroFill, a good idea?

    On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:18:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > I can not see how a virus can survive an MBR rewrite and reformat,
    > unless the task is done on the machine that has the virus, and it is one
    > of those that survives a warm boot (yes, that could be done; I read the
    > explanation).


    That's how it's done - and to my knowledge, one of a very few ways it can
    be done. The virus needs to stay resident, which means infecting the
    firmware (to survive a cold boot) or hooking INT19 (if memory serves) and
    protecting itself from a reboot.

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  5. #155
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    Default Re: ZeroFill, a good idea?

    On 02/18/2013 07:48 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > If your purpose here is to figure out how to run WINE safely so you can
    > use pirated software, then this discussion is at an end.


    i agree completely, thanks Jim!

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    Default ZeroFill, a good idea? - THREAD CLOSED

    This thread is now closed.

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    Default Re: ZeroFill, a good idea?

    On 2013-02-18 19:49, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > That's how it's done - and to my knowledge, one of a very few ways it can
    > be done. The virus needs to stay resident, which means infecting the
    > firmware (to survive a cold boot) or hooking INT19 (if memory serves) and
    > protecting itself from a reboot.


    As far as I remember, the firmware was not infected (at those times,
    firmware was really firm, ie, RO). Several interrupt service were
    replaced (I don't remember which), the amount of available memory on the
    machine was reduced a bit (to allocate the virus), and some other clever
    tricks. It survived a reboot. You had to poweroff/on, I'm not sure a
    reboot by the reset button suffices or not.

    That was several years ago, I don't keep track of current "progress".

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