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    Default Re: Dual Boot / Multiple OS

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    What do you mean?

    By the way, from this guide, I will be asked to choose between KDE and Gnome desktop. How does the two differ?
    Considerably !

    KDE is more typical to a layout windows users will be familiar with
    Gnome is quite different

    Otherwise, they are the same in that they let you do the same things
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    Ok thanks. Last question so I can now proceed with the installation.

    Say I would be following the instructions posted on the website I indicated on my first post. (LINK!)

    1. Is shrink volume a must? After doing some research, I still don't get what and how this shrink volume works and how it affects my computer.
    2. Do I need to have a separate partition for the new OS to be installed? Or as I install the new OS, the files in my drives can still be accessed or at least seen on the new OS?
    3. I should change the boot priority to USB so once the computer started, it will be reading the USB first, right? Then after reading the contents of the USB, it will automatically proceed to the installation indicated on the guide I'm following.
    4.1 After installation, every time I reboot my computer, I will be asked to select which OS will be used, right? Or I need to configure something in my computer before that thing goes up?
    4.2 Right after installation, should I immediately change the boot priority to its original?

    Sorry for asking too much (dumb?) questions. I just want to make sure everything will go flawlessly. This is my very first time and I have no idea on how to install an OS. I don't want my computer to be messed up.

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    I don't recommend that guide.

    I'd need to see what partitions you have now.
    You must backup and defrag windows

    Did I show you this https://forums.opensuse.org/content/...in7-guide.html

    See also: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/12....2_Install.m4v
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    Hi guuwey,

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ratzi View Post
    if you could boot from the Live CD or the image of that on an USB stick:
    do you know how to open a terminal, and copy and save the output there,
    in order to post it here ?
    What do you mean?
    A terminal provides a command line (already heard that?),
    which let you enter commands as text or call programs by entering their name.
    The output of some of these programs is quite useful in this forum.

    Besides, if you didn't install yet:
    make a backup of your data beforehand - always good practice !

    Because you want to keep windows, it would be a good idea,
    to make a backup too of the system files, and to create a
    recovery CD/DVD (if you havn't got one already), using windows.

    Just to have a plan B in case anything should go wrong.

    Good luck
    Mike

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    You've probably already proceeded with your installation before reading this, so hopefully you're viewing this forum within openSUSE . However, in case not:

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    1. Is shrink volume a must? After doing some research, I still don't get what and how this shrink volume works and how it affects my computer.
    This openSUSE installer is clever and doesn't modify your hard drive until you confim it may proceed. Before this confirmation, it lists the changes to your hard drive so you should have a complete idea of what it's doing beforehand.

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    2. Do I need to have a separate partition for the new OS to be installed?
    Yes. I'd recommend another separate partition as swap space but that's not compulsory.

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    Or as I install the new OS, the files in my drives can still be accessed or at least seen on the new OS?
    Files stored on Windows (NTFS) will still be accessible within openSUSE, with options to change read/write access according to your preferences.

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    3. I should change the boot priority to USB so once the computer started, it will be reading the USB first, right? Then after reading the contents of the USB, it will automatically proceed to the installation indicated on the guide I'm following.
    For installation, you obviously have to change the boot priority in your BIOS so that the drive containing your installation media (USB/DVD) boots before your hard drive otherwise you'll just boot into Windows.

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    4.1 After installation, every time I reboot my computer, I will be asked to select which OS will be used, right? Or I need to configure something in my computer before that thing goes up?
    With a default openSUSE installation, the bootloader program will ask which partition to boot into, and in effect you select which OS at that stage.

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    4.2 Right after installation, should I immediately change the boot priority to its original?
    That's your choice, and I wouldn't really worry about it. If you find the changed priority a pain in the long run, then there's no reason why you can't change it back to it's original.

    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    Sorry for asking too much (dumb?) questions. I just want to make sure everything will go flawlessly. This is my very first time and I have no idea on how to install an OS. I don't want my computer to be messed up.
    No problem asking questions but I must admit I fear for your peace of mind going into Linux installation expecting it will always work the `very first time'. Linux is not free, you just pay with time rather than money. The nature of Linux is that it gives complete control to people who like tweaking the computer to do exactly what they want rather than being hostage to corporations. This however comes at a cost. You have to take responsibility for your computer and accept that no `tweak' is risk-free. Fortunately there is a large community of experts to help you who volunteer help. The chances are that your computer won't be `messed up', but the first things to do before you proceed is back-up your most valuable data and make sure you have a Windows Recovery CD as Mike has said above.

    Good luck!

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    You *may* find this the links listed this URL useful:

    Useful Links for openSUSE installers new to Linux

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    @caf4926

    To be honest, I really do not understand what's on that guide you've given me. I'm having hard time understanding those so I just skipped it. Sorry.

    Anyway, since I'm having hard time downloading the pmagic4.5 on the site you've given, I guess it'll be fine to use this (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bx1...UxrUE5vWmw2Mnc) temporarily while I have not downloaded the file. I'll try downloading the file tomorrow. Hopefully I can give you what you really need.

    @ratzi

    Terminal? You mean the one that's being used in Linux, like the command prompt in Windows? If yes, I've tried using it once last week in our school. That was the very first time I've used that, though.

    Yes, thank you! I'll be definitely backing up my system files.

    @flymail

    Thank you for clarifying those things. I was able to write only the iso file from the homepage into the USB. Aside from that, I have not performed anything nasty yet.

    I'll be sleeping for now. Hope to see your replies tomorrow! Thanks again!

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    Hi all

    Quote Originally Posted by flymail View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    2. Do I need to have a separate partition for the new OS to be installed?
    Yes. I'd recommend another separate partition as swap space but that's not compulsory.
    A remark on this:

    I liked openSUSE from the start.
    But when I first installed it, I didn't already thought of that I one day would want to update openSUSE to a higher version.

    To have separate logical drives for root (or /) and home (or /home) whithin an extended partition, considerably eases later updates of openSUSE.

    By the openSUSE installer, a swap partition usually is created by default.

    So you would then end up with 3 logical drives for openSUSE (root, home, swap)
    in addition to your windows partitions.

    Hopefully you don't have too many windows partitions, because the number of partitions is limited on a hard disk
    (at max 5 as far as I remember) that is formatted in the old conventional way (means no UEFI-booting).

    Unlike windows, openSUSE runs fine booting from a logical drive within an extended partition.

    This stuff may seem a bit complicated, but this isn't even closely linked to openSUSE as such.
    The usual windows user (one "drive" C: for everything), however, usually isn't concerned with this.

    Good luck
    Mike

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    On 2013-01-10 14:16, guuwey wrote:
    > Say I would be following the instructions posted on the website I
    > indicated on my first post. ('LINK!'
    > (http://www.tweakhound.com/linux/suse...ualboot/1.html))


    Instead, read the books posted at doc.opensuse.org.

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    Hi guuwey,
    Quote Originally Posted by guuwey View Post
    Yes, thank you! I'll be definitely backing up my system files.
    I don't have an english version of windows so I can't tell you exact terms.
    There's a tool for this that comes with windows as such. Something in the windows 'administration' or so.

    A further remark on the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by ratzi View Post
    Hopefully you don't have too many windows partitions, because the number of partitions is limited on a hard disk
    (at max 5 as far as I remember) that is formatted in the old conventional way (means no UEFI-booting).
    I forgot:
    when you're running windows 7, in addition to the windows "drives" (C:, D:, ...) you have an additional small partition created by windows
    (named: system-reserved), which by default isn't shown by the windows explorer.
    But this one counts as well with respect to the total number of partitions present on your hard disk.

    Good luck
    Mike

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