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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a prob for multiple distros?

    Quote Originally Posted by dvhenry View Post
    And your suggestion for that solution is?
    Well my suggestion would be for linux or OpenSUSE or whoever to get on board with the manufactures and Microsoft to ensure there OS can be installed on the.... or any computer.
    According to my readings the new secure bootloader is designed to accommodate another OS.

    Of course I would hope for and want a more open free solution, what would it be, a new flash to the bios chip?
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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:56:01 +0000, anika200 wrote:

    > I think it is assumed at this point that going forward people will be
    > installing windows 8 so we need a real solution.


    People will be buying systems with Win8 preinstalled to be sure. And a
    "real" solution is in the works.

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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:46:02 +0000, anika200 wrote:

    > Well my suggestion would be for linux or OpenSUSE or whoever to get on
    > board with the manufactures and Microsoft to ensure there OS can be
    > installed on the.... or any computer.


    And what makes you think such a solution isn't what's actually in the
    works?

    Have you read the openSUSE blog entries that talk about the solution the
    developers are working on?

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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    On 2013-01-13 02:46, anika200 wrote:
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    > dvhenry;2517750 Wrote:
    >> And your suggestion for that solution is?

    > Well my suggestion would be for linux or OpenSUSE or whoever to get on
    > board with the manufactures and Microsoft to ensure there OS can be
    > installed on the.... or any computer.
    > According to my readings the new secure bootloader is designed to
    > accommodate another OS.


    The solution is being sougt for and being designed by a study group at
    SUSE/openSUSE. There is a wiki page with information of this

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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-01-13 02:46, anika200 wrote:
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    > dvhenry;2517750 Wrote:
    >> And your suggestion for that solution is?

    > Well my suggestion would be for linux or OpenSUSE or whoever to get on
    > board with the manufactures and Microsoft to ensure there OS can be
    > installed on the.... or any computer.
    > According to my readings the new secure bootloader is designed to
    > accommodate another OS.


    The solution is being sougt for and being designed by a study group at
    SUSE/openSUSE. There is a wiki page with information of this

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    Ahh, I did not know that. Thanks. This is good, now I can stop hunting around for a laptop that will work and just pick the one I really want.
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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    On 2013-01-13 16:56, anika200 wrote:
    > Ahh, I did not know that. Thanks. This is good, now I can stop hunting
    > around for a laptop that will work and just pick the one I really want.


    No, you always have to hunt for a laptop that will work.

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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:25:17 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2013-01-13 16:56, anika200 wrote:
    >> Ahh, I did not know that. Thanks. This is good, now I can stop hunting
    >> around for a laptop that will work and just pick the one I really want.

    >
    > No, you always have to hunt for a laptop that will work.


    Easiest solution (one I've used a couple of times now) is to take a
    bootable USB LiveCD image on a flash drive to the store, plug it in, and
    try it.

    Of course, that doesn't work for online purchases (I mention this just
    since *someone's* bound to point that out). In such cases, make sure
    they've got a good return policy, and just boot the flash drive - no
    changes to the system at all.

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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:25:17 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2013-01-13 16:56, anika200 wrote:
    >> Ahh, I did not know that. Thanks. This is good, now I can stop hunting
    >> around for a laptop that will work and just pick the one I really want.

    >
    > No, you always have to hunt for a laptop that will work.


    Easiest solution (one I've used a couple of times now) is to take a
    bootable USB LiveCD image on a flash drive to the store, plug it in, and
    try it.

    Of course, that doesn't work for online purchases (I mention this just
    since *someone's* bound to point that out). In such cases, make sure
    they've got a good return policy, and just boot the flash drive - no
    changes to the system at all.

    Jim
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    Hey I never thought about that, sounds like a good plan. I like the idea and will do it. Secondarily it would be nice if this method could also help me determine if secure boot is enabled or if I can dual boot?
    Would it be possible to boot a live usb stick that also had some sort of test suit to see if the laptop has all compatible chips. Ha, I guess that is the point of a live usb.
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    Default Re: Need to replace motherboard, new ones have UEFI, is this a probfor multiple distros?

    On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:16:02 +0000, anika200 wrote:

    > Hey I never thought about that, sounds like a good plan. I like the idea
    > and will do it but can this method also help me determine if secure boot
    > is enabled or if I can dual boot?


    If secure boot is enabled, then booting from the media would be disabled
    (that's a "feature" of secure boot).

    But you /can/ dual boot, you just have to either disable secure boot or
    use a solution that allows secure boot to work with an installed third
    party OS.

    > Would it be possible to boot a live usb stick that also had some sort of
    > test suit to see if the laptop has all compatible chips. Does such a
    > thing already exist, program wise? Sorry, drifting off topic here.


    What I did was boot the 12.1 LiveCD from a USB drive and looked to see
    what worked and what didn't. In my instance, bluetooth worked, wifi
    worked, video worked, sound worked - the touchpad sorta worked (there was
    a kernel update later that got it fully recognized as a touchpad - it was
    initially only recognized as a mouse).

    That's the beauty of using live media - you can see what specifically
    works by testing it out.

    Jim

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