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    Quote Originally Posted by mvaar View Post
    Any chance 3.8 will make it to 12.3 release ?

    I want to install it on my SSD and prefer to try F2FS.
    Of course, using SAKC, you can install any kernel version you like after openSUSE 12.3 gets installed, if we can assume kernel 3.7 allows that installation to finish. For me in testing an nVIDIA 9500, only text mode would work for the openSUSE 12.3 RC1 install, but did come up after the installation was complete. Using a nVIDIA GT 660 Ti, the openSUSE 12.3 RC1 never produced an image I could read in efi mode. So we can only hope we will be good with kernel 3.7 during the openSUSE 12.3 install.

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    Smile What's new in Linux 3.8



    by Thorsten Leemhuis

    Improved graphics drivers and a new filesystem for flash disks are two of the most important changes in Linux 3.8. Kernel developers have also made improvements to btrfs and ext4 and merged a number of new drivers.

    "Unicycling Gorilla" is the code name for Linux 3.8, released today by Linus Torvalds after ten weeks of development. The name is once more derived from an event in Torvald's life and an anecdote without significance, but many Linux users will benefit from the many enhancements in the latest kernel version.

    Copyright © 2013 Heise Media UK Ltd.

    Read More: What's new in Linux 3.8 - The H Open: News and Features

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmcdaniel3 View Post
    Of course, using SAKC, you can install any kernel version you like after openSUSE 12.3 gets installed, if we can assume kernel 3.7 allows that installation to finish. For me in testing an nVIDIA 9500, only text mode would work for the openSUSE 12.3 RC1 install, but did come up after the installation was complete. Using a nVIDIA GT 660 Ti, the openSUSE 12.3 RC1 never produced an image I could read in efi mode. So we can only hope we will be good with kernel 3.7 during the openSUSE 12.3 install.

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    I have compiled kernel before but never used SAKC- are you saying that I can compile new kernel DURING installation ? I guess I can install on a 'supported' FS, then install kernel 3.8, create another partition with FSFS, copy stuff there and make it the new root. I have done stuff like that with lilo and grub 1 but grub 2 baffles me and I have not been able to master it ( or made serious attempts to).

    In any case, it would be nice if at least after the release, an image with kernel 3.8 is available for download ( sort of an updated ISO, if you will) with the "use it at your own risk" addendum. With SSDs being so popular, it is unfortunate to have to wait another release before the installer supports F2FS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvaar View Post
    I have compiled kernel before but never used SAKC- are you saying that I can compile new kernel DURING installation ? I guess I can install on a 'supported' FS, then install kernel 3.8, create another partition with FSFS, copy stuff there and make it the new root. I have done stuff like that with lilo and grub 1 but grub 2 baffles me and I have not been able to master it ( or made serious attempts to).

    In any case, it would be nice if at least after the release, an image with kernel 3.8 is available for download ( sort of an updated ISO, if you will) with the "use it at your own risk" addendum. With SSDs being so popular, it is unfortunate to have to wait another release before the installer supports F2FS.

    Thanks.
    I am not sure if one could create their own openSUSE version in SUSE Studio that has a newer kernel, but normally we must use the exact kernel version selected for the openSUSE release when it came out. If you want to use a newer kernel version, it must be installed after the openSUSE installation is complete, but it could be the very first thing you do after openSUSE is up and running. There is more than one way to upgrade your kernel, but you are not likely to beat the ease and functions built into SAKC. In general, upgrading to the latest stable kernel should be safe and easy to do and I seldom worry about doing that.

    You mention SSD's and I must tell you I have put together an oldish 3.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo computer for my disabled wife to use with an 80 GB SSD hard drive, using Kernel 3.7.9 (I think that is the version), openSUSE 12.2 and with auto login enabled (does not stop to login for KDE or Wireless), the PC BIOS is set to its fastest startup (No Splash screen & all missing device scans are disabled) the PC goes from turn on to openSUSE loaded in just 15 seconds flat. My main (and faster) PC can't do that though it has more hard drives and such installed. SSD's, openSUSE 12.2 and the latest kernel are are killer fast when put together.

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    Default Re: Linux Kernel 3.8 RCX has Been Released To Test - Post Your CommentsHere!

    On 02/20/2013 11:16 AM, mvaar wrote:

    > I have compiled kernel before but never used SAKC- are you saying that
    > I can compile new kernel DURING installation ? I guess I can install on
    > a 'supported' FS, then install kernel 3.8, create another partition with
    > FSFS, copy stuff there and make it the new root. I have done stuff like
    > that with lilo and grub 1 but grub 2 baffles me and I have not been able
    > to master it ( or made serious attempts to).


    SAKC just automates the things you need to do manually. It will not be possible
    to build a kernel during installation. Converting from one fs to another is
    always accomplished a lot easier by using a Live CD. That eliminates the hassle
    of trying to handle an active fs.

    > In any case, it would be nice if at least after the release, an image
    > with kernel 3.8 is available for download ( sort of an updated ISO, if
    > you will) with the "use it at your own risk" addendum. With SSDs being
    > so popular, it is unfortunate to have to wait another release before the
    > installer supports F2FS.


    If you want to have an installation iso with kernel 3.8, you will likely need to
    build your own, but even then the installer is unlikely to support f2fs.




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    http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...-3.8.1.tar.bz2

    I see that kernel 3.8.1 has arrived and it is now a good time to go for the latest kernel since we have our first fixes being placed out for us to use.

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    Default Re: Linux Kernel 3.8 RCX has Been Released To Test - Post Your Comments Here!

    Quote Originally Posted by jdmcdaniel3 View Post
    http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...-3.8.1.tar.bz2

    I see that kernel 3.8.1 has arrived and it is now a good time to go for the latest kernel since we have our first fixes being placed out for us to use.

    Thank You,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dale14846 View Post
    I am testing linux-3.8.1 with opensuse 12.3-rc2 everything seems good.
    Same here. Kernel 3.8.1 seems good so far with openSUSE 12.3 RC2.

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    Default Re: Linux Kernel 3.8 RCX has Been Released To Test - Post Your Comments Here!

    This being the Easter weekend, and myself with a bit more time than normal, I downloaded the linux-3.8.5 kernel and ran jdmcdaniel3's sakc script to install the 3.8.5 kernel. This was done on a test partition on my main PC (which has a 3 year old Intel Core i7-920 cpu on an Asus P6T Deluxe V2 motherboard, 6GB RAM and a nVidia GTX260 graphic card). It compiled in 23 minutes, which is significantly faster than my ancient 32-bit athlon-1150 CPU (that takes many hours). The openSUSE version on this test partition is a 64-bit openSUSE-12.3 with the stock KDE desktop.

    I rebooted to 3.8.5 kernel and all appears to be working well .... ie sound, ethernet, graphics (nouveau driver), USB storage/access, webcam (with uvc driver).

    @ jdmcdaniel3, I just wanted also to take this opportunity to thank you again for building and sharing that script, for average users to install the latest kernels. This is much appreciated. The inxi output from my PC with this 3.8.5 kernel:
    Code:
    System:    Host: corei7-920.darmstadt Kernel: 3.8.5-1.1-desktop x86_64 (64 bit) 
               Desktop KDE 4.10.00 Distro: openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) VERSION = 12.3 CODENAME = Dartmouth
    Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P6T DELUXE V2 version: Rev 1.xx Bios: American Megatrends version: 1108 date: 09/21/2010
    CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7 CPU 920 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) 
               Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz 3: 1600.00 MHz 4: 1600.00 MHz 5: 1600.00 MHz 6: 1600.00 MHz 7: 2668.00 MHz 8: 1600.00 MHz
    Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT200 [GeForce GTX 260] 
               X.Org: 1.13.2 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,nv,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1200@60.0hz 
               GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA0 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.0.2
    Audio:     Card-1: Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: k3.8.5-1.1-desktop
               Card-2: Logitech HD Webcam C910 driver: USB Audio
    Network:   Card-1: Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2 
               IF: eth1 state: down speed: 65535 Mbps duplex: unknown mac: 00:24:8c:7e:ee:38
               Card-2: Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2 
               IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:24:8c:7e:ee:39
    Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1500.3GB (74.7% used) 1: /dev/sda ST31500341AS 1500.3GB 
    Partition: ID: / size: 15G used: 9.2G (68%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 34G used: 9.7G (30%) fs: ext4 
               ID: swap-1 size: 6.82GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
    Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0C mobo: 53.0C gpu: 0.0 
               Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1222 psu: 0 sys-1: 0 sys-2: 0 sys-3: 0 fan-1: 802 fan-2: 0 
               fan-3: 0 
    Info:      Processes: 190 Uptime: 0:09 Memory: 724.7/5973.8MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.24
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    This being the Easter weekend, and myself with a bit more time than normal, I downloaded the linux-3.8.5 kernel and ran jdmcdaniel3's sakc script to install the 3.8.5 kernel. This was done on a test partition on my main PC (which has a 3 year old Intel Core i7-920 cpu on an Asus P6T Deluxe V2 motherboard, 6GB RAM and a nVidia GTX260 graphic card). It compiled in 23 minutes, which is significantly faster than my ancient 32-bit athlon-1150 CPU (that takes many hours). The openSUSE version on this test partition is a 64-bit openSUSE-12.3 with the stock KDE desktop.

    I rebooted to 3.8.5 kernel and all appears to be working well .... ie sound, ethernet, graphics (nouveau driver), USB storage/access, webcam (with uvc driver).

    @ jdmcdaniel3, I just wanted also to take this opportunity to thank you again for building and sharing that script, for average users to install the latest kernels. This is much appreciated. The inxi output from my PC with this 3.8.5 kernel:
    Code:
    System:    Host: corei7-920.darmstadt Kernel: 3.8.5-1.1-desktop x86_64 (64 bit) 
               Desktop KDE 4.10.00 Distro: openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) VERSION = 12.3 CODENAME = Dartmouth
    Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P6T DELUXE V2 version: Rev 1.xx Bios: American Megatrends version: 1108 date: 09/21/2010
    CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7 CPU 920 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) 
               Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz 3: 1600.00 MHz 4: 1600.00 MHz 5: 1600.00 MHz 6: 1600.00 MHz 7: 2668.00 MHz 8: 1600.00 MHz
    Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT200 [GeForce GTX 260] 
               X.Org: 1.13.2 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,nv,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1200@60.0hz 
               GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA0 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.0.2
    Audio:     Card-1: Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: k3.8.5-1.1-desktop
               Card-2: Logitech HD Webcam C910 driver: USB Audio
    Network:   Card-1: Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2 
               IF: eth1 state: down speed: 65535 Mbps duplex: unknown mac: 00:24:8c:7e:ee:38
               Card-2: Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2 
               IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:24:8c:7e:ee:39
    Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1500.3GB (74.7% used) 1: /dev/sda ST31500341AS 1500.3GB 
    Partition: ID: / size: 15G used: 9.2G (68%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 34G used: 9.7G (30%) fs: ext4 
               ID: swap-1 size: 6.82GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
    Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0C mobo: 53.0C gpu: 0.0 
               Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1222 psu: 0 sys-1: 0 sys-2: 0 sys-3: 0 fan-1: 802 fan-2: 0 
               fan-3: 0 
    Info:      Processes: 190 Uptime: 0:09 Memory: 724.7/5973.8MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.24
    Great info oldcpu. The compile does work better with a faster PC. I might add that using a SSD drive likely would shave another five minutes from that 23 minutes. I use one for my root / partition and thus the tmp folder. I am not using one for /home at present. First, root / saves the most time normally from startup, but it does depend on what you are doing I know. But the kicker was having a SSD die that held my /home partition a while back. It convinced me that /home is too important to lose while reloading root / is just that big a deal for most non-server PC's. Its just more food for thought.

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