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    Linux Kills Support For Intel's 386 Processors | Muktware

    Any 386 boxes out there? What do you use them for?

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    On 2012-12-14 00:46, chief sealth wrote:
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    > 'Linux Kills Support For Intel's 386 Processors | Muktware'
    > (http://tinyurl.com/cwnkp2b)
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    > Any 386 boxes out there? What do you use them for?


    I have one with SuSE 5.2 or 6.2, I don't remember. I have not used it in
    a long time, it part of my little personal museum. Or, I need it to
    recover old backups.

    To me it does not matter really that support ceases, I don't intend to
    update it :-)

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    So I think its already been dead for a long time. but it does bring back old memories of DOS and even Norton Utilities. I once did a side job with another individual and we were contracted to rebuild 500 IBM PC's with a i386 motherboard's. We had six weeks to complete, we both had day jobs and worked at night at the place where the PC were being rebuilt. I never saw so many PC's from the inside again. I can say that the old IBM PC's and even its case, were built like battleships. Still I do not miss memory or hard disk problems like we had back then. It was good while it lasted, but Rest In Peace i386.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief_sealth View Post
    Any 386 boxes out there? What do you use them for?
    I owned one of those for a while. That was a long time ago. I replaced it in 1995, with a 586 system. I never had linux on the 386.
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    My first Linux box in 2000 ran on an i686 which was already five years old by then. I think my previous DOS box from 2001 had a 386.

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    Many years ago (circa SuSE Prof. 6.4) I tried to resurrect a 486sx Packard-Bell
    box. What a pain. Just buying all of the memory and cache chips cost a small
    fortune (more than a brand new low end host with 10x the performance).

    So... I ended up with a box with 20M of memory (the max), I overclocked the
    25Mhz processor to 33Mhz...

    It had one of those Oak video boards, so I could at least to 800x600 at 16 colors.

    At the end of the day... it was WAY too slow even in console mode for me. I did
    manage to get the 10Mbit ethernet running and was able to use a text based
    browser.. shoot, I even got KDE to come up!! But it was really just a very
    expensive experiment.... NOT recommended.

    I would hate to think of how bad it would have been with a 386...



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    Don't know if the call center and delivery service is still using but had 9 order taking and two dispatch i386 network machines running Mandrake 9.0 Linux from 1999 to 2004. 17 chicken outlets and the home food delivery service were connected to the call center using a 24 line modem pool bank with modems at the stores tied to simple serial printers. Worked fast, dependable for the roughly 1000 orders per day and store reprints of about 2500 per day. Shows what could be done using a technology that was based on principals routed in 1950 style printing terminals.

    If i386 machines were still available in mainstream this sort of application would still be quite viable but .... could be better suited to modern systems with each system using email or texting.
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    There's more oomph in a Raspberry Pi... same money and pain... sure, you might
    make a successul anti-landfill argument, but probably at the expense of killing
    trees on power consumption alone. Simply put, there's probably no good reason
    to keep an exiting 386 running.... (but who knows...)


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    On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:03:38 +0000, Chris Cox wrote:

    > sure, you might make a successul anti-landfill argument,


    There are usually electronics recycling places that will take equipment
    off your hands for no cost. That's what I've done with mine.

    Also, comparatively speaking, the "green" argument doesn't wash because a
    386 generally takes more power than a RPI.

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    On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:54:16 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:

    > On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:03:38 +0000, Chris Cox wrote:
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    >> sure, you might make a successul anti-landfill argument,

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    > There are usually electronics recycling places that will take equipment
    > off your hands for no cost. That's what I've done with mine.
    >
    > Also, comparatively speaking, the "green" argument doesn't wash because
    > a 386 generally takes more power than a RPI.


    Which you mentioned and I forgot between the time I read it and the time
    I posted.

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