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    Default What's the procedure to move a thread?


    Someone posted a thread about postfix in the hardware 64 forum. I asked
    he moves the thread to network forum before responding, because
    responding via nntp and then moving halfway is a mess. He is new,
    doesn't know how to ask for a move, and I don't either because I don't
    use the web.

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    thread here


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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Does it work to use the spam reporting icon, and request the move in the associated message?
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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Whenever a request hits the mods, a warning is placed in the thread on behalf of the NNTP users, a 10 minute delay is kept, then the thread is moved. Some do use the report button.
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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Have posted the "procedure", addressed to OP in the referenced thread.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:06:01 +0000, Knurpht wrote:

    > Whenever a request hits the mods, a warning is placed in the thread on
    > behalf of the NNTP users, a 10 minute delay is kept, then the thread is
    > moved. Some do use the report button.


    And, in fairness, the warning placed in the thread doesn't always
    happen. The staff does their best but we're not perfect.

    Reporting the post is the best option. That keeps additional non-related
    messages out of the thread and keeps it on topic.

    The same is the case if you happen to respond to a thread that moves, BTW
    - if you do that, please visit the web page and report your post rather
    than replying in the thread that you didn't realise that the thread had
    been moved (or that there was no warning, or whatever). If you reply to
    your post, that makes for more work for staff.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    Reporting the post is the best option. That keeps additional non-related
    messages out of the thread and keeps it on topic.
    That's a new one. Since you're making policy on the hoof, don't forget to change the instruction presented in response to pressing the report button.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 12/11/2012 06:46 PM, consused wrote:
    > don't forget to change the advice presented in response to pressing the report
    > button.


    good idea....or, consider a wrongly placed post as 'rude'..

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by dd View Post
    On 12/11/2012 06:46 PM, consused wrote:
    > don't forget to change the advice presented in response to pressing the report
    > button.


    good idea....or, consider a wrongly placed post as 'rude'..
    and one of the mods will duly remove the offensive post.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:46:02 +0000, consused wrote:

    > hendersj;2510236 Wrote:
    >>
    >> Reporting the post is the best option. That keeps additional
    >> non-related messages out of the thread and keeps it on topic.

    > That's a new one. Since you're making policy on the hoof, don't
    > forget to change the advice presented in response to pressing the report
    > button.


    It's just kinda annoying to have to move an unrelated post that says
    "nobody told me the thread was moved!" that doesn't add anything to the
    actual discussion. I've had to do that on more than a few occasions.

    Yes, it /would/ be easier if all staff did things exactly the same way.
    But nobody's perfect, and pointing out minor imperfections in the system
    really isn't going to change the fact that everyone makes mistakes from
    time to time.

    In a perfect world, one of two things would happen: 1) posters would
    always post in the correct forum. 2) We would have the time to modify
    the gateway to delete the thread in the old location and recreate it in
    the new location so it would appear to have actually "moved" on the NNTP
    side.

    But most of those who use the NNTP interface know (from years of having
    been told so) that it's a secondary interface and does not have the same
    features as the web interface. There will be shortcomings and there will
    be glitches. While we're happy to have issues reported, it is what it is
    - and for those who use it, we're sorry, but you'll just have to live
    with the shortcomings until such time as we can take some time to sort
    them out.

    We've had more serious issues to deal with, after all, than a lack of
    notification that a thread's been moved for the handful of NNTP users
    (and I count myself in that group - and have been bitten by the "thread
    moved without notification" issue. <shrug> It happens.)

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:46:02 +0000, consused wrote:

    > hendersj;2510236 Wrote:
    >>
    >> Reporting the post is the best option. That keeps additional
    >> non-related messages out of the thread and keeps it on topic.

    > That's a new one. Since you're making policy on the hoof, don't
    > forget to change the advice presented in response to pressing the report
    > button.


    It's just kinda annoying to have to move an unrelated post that says
    "nobody told me the thread was moved!" that doesn't add anything to the
    actual discussion. I've had to do that on more than a few occasions...
    Yes, your detailed explanation should satisfy anyone to report the thread/post and to encourage newcomers likewise. However your reply didn't appear to address my suggestion to amend the reporting mechanism's instruction to the user:

    Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts.
    I suggest it shouldn't exclude "a request for a thread to be moved", as it does now.

    Although it is the logical way to report a misplaced thread, once upon a time the wording discouraged me from using it. It may do same for newcomers at least.

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