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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:16:01 +0000, consused wrote:

    > hendersj;2510276 Wrote:
    >> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:46:02 +0000, consused wrote:
    >>
    >> > hendersj;2510236 Wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> Reporting the post is the best option. That keeps additional
    >> >> non-related messages out of the thread and keeps it on topic.
    >> > That's a new one. Since you're making policy on the hoof, don't
    >> > forget to change the advice presented in response to pressing the

    >> report
    >> > button.

    >>
    >> It's just kinda annoying to have to move an unrelated post that says
    >> "nobody told me the thread was moved!" that doesn't add anything to the
    >> actual discussion. I've had to do that on more than a few occasions...

    > Yes, your detailed explanation should satisfy anyone to report the
    > thread/post and to encourage newcomers likewise. However your reply
    > didn't appear to address my suggestion to amend the reporting
    > mechanism's instruction to the user:


    Ah, I see - I hadn't come away with that. I think that string is part of
    what's in the stock text in vBulletin, but I'll take a look and see.

    >> *Note*: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages,
    >> and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts.

    > I suggest it shouldn't exclude "a request for a thread to be moved", as
    > it does now.
    >
    > Although it is the logical way to report a misplaced thread, once upon a
    > time the wording discouraged me from using it. It may do same for
    > newcomers at least.


    That's a good idea.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 2012-12-11 13:16, consused wrote:
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    > Have posted the "procedure", addressed to OP in the referenced thread.
    >


    Someone could have moved the thread already - it is the second day now,
    and I have to refrain from answering his main question till it is moved.

    I don't want to make more work, either...

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 2012-12-11 20:56, Jim Henderson wrote:

    ....

    > We've had more serious issues to deal with, after all, than a lack of
    > notification that a thread's been moved for the handful of NNTP users
    > (and I count myself in that group - and have been bitten by the "thread
    > moved without notification" issue. <shrug> It happens.)


    Nobody has said anything about that here. The issue here is different.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2012-12-11 13:16, consused wrote:
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    > Have posted the "procedure", addressed to OP in the referenced thread.
    >


    Someone could have moved the thread already - it is the second day now,
    and I have to refrain from answering his main question till it is moved.

    I don't want to make more work, either...
    The OP acknowledged my post and did the necessary [PM]. The thread moved hours ago (now yesterday) . Ready, steady, go!

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 2012-12-12 02:46, consused wrote:

    > The OP acknowledged my post and did the necessary [PM]. The thread
    > moved hours ago (now yesterday) . Ready, steady, go!


    Where to?

    Unless somebody posts a new post telling that to nntp users, I can not
    post to the new place.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:13:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2012-12-11 20:56, Jim Henderson wrote:
    >
    > ...
    >
    >> We've had more serious issues to deal with, after all, than a lack of
    >> notification that a thread's been moved for the handful of NNTP users
    >> (and I count myself in that group - and have been bitten by the "thread
    >> moved without notification" issue. <shrug> It happens.)

    >
    > Nobody has said anything about that here. The issue here is different.


    My comment is more of a general comment about thread moving and the
    complaints that are usually posted to a thread where the moderator hasn't
    posted a notification and waited 10 minutes before moving the thread.

    Falls under the category of discussion of "how threads get moved".

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 12/12/2012 06:35 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > Falls under the category of discussion of "how threads get moved".


    which was not the topic of this thread..

    the originating message thread asked how a *user* should ask for their
    wrongly placed thread to be moved..

    but a moderator responded not with what a user needs to do, but what a
    mod is supposed to do..

    and, then you defended those mods who forget what they should do--off
    from the original topic and managed to swing the thread into "how
    threads get moved"...which Carlos didn't ask..

    so all of this about how mods move threads (correctly, or not and
    whether defendable or not) was totally unnecessary and off topic in
    _this_ thread..

    on the other hand (since the thread is shot anyway), i would think that
    if a mod is consistently unable to do a move in the way that best suits
    the needs of the forum users (both questioners and answers), then s/he
    should at some point no longer be shielded with "we're not perfect" but
    instead be retrained and motivated to remember the way it should be
    done, next time.

    ymmv

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 2012-12-12 10:05, dd wrote:
    > On 12/12/2012 06:35 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    >> Falls under the category of discussion of "how threads get moved".

    >
    > which was not the topic of this thread..
    >
    > the originating message thread asked how a *user* should ask for their
    > wrongly placed thread to be moved..


    Right.

    > on the other hand (since the thread is shot anyway), i would think that
    > if a mod is consistently unable to do a move in the way that best suits
    > the needs of the forum users (both questioners and answers), then s/he
    > should at some point no longer be shielded with "we're not perfect" but
    > instead be retrained and motivated to remember the way it should be
    > done, next time.


    I'm sorry to agree.

    For example, this particular thread I was asking about as an example was
    moved away, with no warning to nntp users: not on the original place,
    not on the destination. Thus, with no notice of the move I have not been
    able to start answering the OP till now.


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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 12/12/2012 03:07 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > Where to?


    Network/Internet [nntp: opensuse.org.help.network-internet]
    "Postfix/sendmail config issues"

    the reason you couldn't find it was because no one had yet posted to
    that thread in its new place (until almost an hour after you here asked
    where it is)

    to solve both problems (for the nntp user) it would be best if the
    moving mod were to post _prior_ to moving something like:

    "This thread will be moved to Network/Internet in ten minutes . . ."

    and, then _after_ the move post "Thread moved from Hardware 64 bits and
    is open . . ."

    that way, nntp users first reading the original in the old forum can
    find its new place, and folks first happening on the thread in its new
    spot can go back to the old spot and read the problem..

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 2012-12-12 10:26, dd wrote:
    > On 12/12/2012 03:07 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    >> Where to?

    >
    > Network/Internet [nntp: opensuse.org.help.network-internet]
    > "Postfix/sendmail config issues"
    >
    > the reason you couldn't find it was because no one had yet posted to
    > that thread in its new place (until almost an hour after you here asked
    > where it is)


    Exactly.

    I just posted the answer I have delayed for two journeys.

    > to solve both problems (for the nntp user) it would be best if the
    > moving mod were to post _prior_ to moving something like:
    >
    > "This thread will be moved to Network/Internet in ten minutes . . ."
    >
    > and, then _after_ the move post "Thread moved from Hardware 64 bits and
    > is open . . ."


    Exactly :-)

    I understand it is more tedious, that the nntp users are secondary, but
    I also understand that the target goal is helping users, and I was
    impeded from doing that.

    > that way, nntp users first reading the original in the old forum can
    > find its new place, and folks first happening on the thread in its new
    > spot can go back to the old spot and read the problem..


    Absolutely!

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