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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On 12/12/2012 10:48 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > the target goal is helping users, and I was impeded from doing that.


    you and a good size chunk of the active helpers..

    it is counter productive to look at the 'facts' (there are something
    like a dozen routinely active via nntp, while the forums have 71,229
    members, 2,957 active members) and conclude it is too much of a burden
    to teach and require the mods to move posts in a particular way..

    but, count the percentage of active helpers by access method and the
    importance (to the user seeking competent help) of using a particular
    method i think should become rather obvious..

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2012-12-12 10:26, dd wrote:
    > On 12/12/2012 03:07 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    >> Where to?
    >
    That doesn't inform a non-NNTP user, so not a very helpful reply. Frustration won, que? I tried NNTP once or twice, but there were no thread moves apparent.

    > Network/Internet [nntp: opensuse.org.help.network-internet]
    > "Postfix/sendmail config issues"
    >
    > the reason you couldn't find it was because no one had yet posted to
    > that thread in its new place (until almost an hour after you here asked
    > where it is)
    Ah, now I see from dd's comment!

    I understand it is more tedious, that the nntp users are secondary,
    No, it's the interface that is secondary.

    but
    I also understand that the target goal is helping users, and I was
    impeded from doing that.
    As I'm sure the staff do, but again it's the interface causing the problem that impeded your progress. That is a choice you made (I know it's circumstantial) .

    When volunteers are busy posting to other threads, completing staff work, and the day job, stuff gets missed even with retraining. It will happen again just like "friendly fire" happens in the fog of battle in spite of all the latest technology. In the case of NNTP, nobody dies as a result.

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:05:47 +0000, dd wrote:

    > On 12/12/2012 06:35 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
    >> Falls under the category of discussion of "how threads get moved".

    >
    > which was not the topic of this thread..


    Threads can drift <shrug> That happens too.

    Jim



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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:11:28 +0000, dd wrote:

    > it is counter productive to look at the 'facts' (there are something
    > like a dozen routinely active via nntp, while the forums have 71,229
    > members, 2,957 active members) and conclude it is too much of a burden
    > to teach and require the mods to move posts in a particular way..


    Must I remind you again that the staff here are volunteers, and are not
    paid to perform their moderation duties here?

    As such, we suggest how things should best be done, but each mod has
    their own time they donate to work here. I find that being critical of
    volunteers in and of itself tends to be counterproductive, and
    proscribing specific procedures that MUST be followed is generally a much
    more "business-orientated" approach that in such cases isn't usually the
    best approach to take.

    I will again raise the issue with staff, and I expect what will happen is
    that old habits will return, and we'll have this same discussion in
    another year.

    Jim

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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:16:01 +0000, consused wrote:

    > I suggest it shouldn't exclude "a request for a thread to be moved", as
    > it does now.
    >
    > Although it is the logical way to report a misplaced thread, once upon a
    > time the wording discouraged me from using it. It may do same for
    > newcomers at least


    We've now made that change.

    Jim



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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    We've now made that change.
    Good changes. Thanks. The new wording is a distinct improvement.
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    Default Re: What's the procedure to move a thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:16:01 +0000, consused wrote:

    > I suggest it shouldn't exclude "a request for a thread to be moved", as
    > it does now.
    >
    > Although it is the logical way to report a misplaced thread, once upon a
    > time the wording discouraged me from using it. It may do same for
    > newcomers at least


    We've now made that change.
    Thank you Jim. That should do nicely...

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