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    im having trouble installing software from pacman. i though i did everything proper but guess i missed something..

    ive followed the opensuse wiki on adding repos, and got theses here installed but cant find the package im looking for, though on the pacman website i can see it there and compiled. why cant i install? when running "zypper ls" it shows that the Oss, Non-oss, and Update repo is not refreshed. i have ran zypper refresh, with no change

    Code:
    # zypper ls
    # | Alias              | Name               | Enabled | Refresh | Type  
    --+--------------------+--------------------+---------+---------+-------
    1 | Non-oss-SUSE       | Non-oss-SUSE       | Yes     | No      | yast2 
    2 | Oss-SUSE           | Oss-SUSE           | Yes     | No      | yast2 
    3 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6  | openSUSE-12.2-1.6  | Yes     | Yes     | yast2 
    4 | packman-essentials | packman-essentials | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    5 | packman-multimedia | packman-multimedia | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    6 | update-SUSE        | update-SUSE        | Yes     | No      | rpm-md
    Code:
    :/sbin #  cat /etc/SuSE-release
    openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64)
    VERSION = 12.2
    CODENAME = Mantis
    Code:
    # zypper install deluge
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    'deluge' not found in package names. Trying capabilities.
    No provider of 'deluge' found.
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    Nothing to do.

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    Default Re: cant install from pacman

    On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:46:02 +0000, kpholmes wrote:

    > # zypper ls


    Let's try:

    zypper lr -d

    And see what URLs you're using for your packman repos.

    Jim



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    Quote Originally Posted by kpholmes View Post
    im having trouble installing software from pacman. i though i did everything proper but guess i missed something..

    ive followed the opensuse wiki on adding repos, and got theses here installed but cant find the package im looking for, though on the pacman website i can see it there and compiled. why cant i install? when running "zypper ls" it shows that the Oss, Non-oss, and Update repo is not refreshed. i have ran zypper refresh, with no change

    Code:
    # zypper ls
    # | Alias              | Name               | Enabled | Refresh | Type  
    --+--------------------+--------------------+---------+---------+-------
    1 | Non-oss-SUSE       | Non-oss-SUSE       | Yes     | No      | yast2 
    2 | Oss-SUSE           | Oss-SUSE           | Yes     | No      | yast2 
    3 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6  | openSUSE-12.2-1.6  | Yes     | Yes     | yast2 
    4 | packman-essentials | packman-essentials | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    5 | packman-multimedia | packman-multimedia | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    6 | update-SUSE        | update-SUSE        | Yes     | No      | rpm-md
    Code:
    :/sbin #  cat /etc/SuSE-release
    openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64)
    VERSION = 12.2
    CODENAME = Mantis
    Code:
    # zypper install deluge
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    'deluge' not found in package names. Trying capabilities.
    No provider of 'deluge' found.
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    Nothing to do.
    First Off, your repo list seems kind of short. Here is mine:

    Code:
    #  | Alias                     | Name                               | Enabled | Refresh | Type  
    ---+---------------------------+------------------------------------+---------+---------+-------
    1  | Packman                   | Packman                            | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    2  | Printing                  | Printing                           | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    3  | YaST                      | YaST                               | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    4  | repo-debug                | openSUSE-12.2-Debug                | No      | Yes     | NONE  
    5  | repo-debug-update         | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug         | No      | Yes     | NONE  
    6  | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No      | Yes     | NONE  
    7  | repo-non-oss              | openSUSE-12.2-Non-Oss              | Yes     | Yes     | yast2 
    8  | repo-oss                  | openSUSE-12.2-Oss                  | Yes     | Yes     | yast2 
    9  | repo-source               | openSUSE-12.2-Source               | No      | Yes     | NONE  
    10 | repo-update               | openSUSE-12.2-Update               | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    11 | repo-update-non-oss       | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Non-Oss       | Yes     | Yes     | rpm-md
    The main difference I wonder about is that by default, I got 8 from openSUSE. Why did you remove three of them and disable the refresh of update-SUSE or even change the default names? I would like to hear your explanation for these changes to the default openSUSE repositories?

    Now, the most common issue is you have not Checked the option Allow Vendor Change. To fully upgrade, I would do the following tasks for openSUSE 12.2 using KDE:

    1. Go to YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Repository and specify the URL addition of the Packman Repository "http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/" excluding the quotes if not already done.
    2. Go to YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Management and select Options and check Allow Vendor Change.
    3. Again, still in Software Management select Package / All Packages / Update if newer version available and press the Accept button on the bottom right.

    Thank You,
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:46:02 +0000, kpholmes wrote:

    > # zypper ls


    Let's try:

    zypper lr -d

    And see what URLs you're using for your packman repos.

    Jim
    Code:
    # zypper lr -d
    # | Alias              | Name               | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                          | Service
    --+--------------------+--------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------+--------
    1 | Non-oss-SUSE       | Non-oss-SUSE       | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/non-oss/ |        
    2 | Oss-SUSE           | Oss-SUSE           | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/     |        
    3 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6  | openSUSE-12.2-1.6  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://mir4.ovh.net/opensuse/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/     |        
    4 | packman-essentials | packman-essentials | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Essentials        |        
    5 | packman-multimedia | packman-multimedia | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/Multimedia        |        
    6 | update-SUSE        | update-SUSE        | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2/                    |

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmcdaniel3 View Post
    First Off, your repo list seems kind of short. Here is mine:

    The main difference I wonder about is that by default, I got 8 from openSUSE. Why did you remove three of them and disable the refresh of update-SUSE or even change the default names? I would like to hear your explanation for these changes to the default openSUSE repositories?
    I got the machine from a hosting provider with just 1 repo (openSUSE-12.2-1.6 | openSUSE-12.2-1.6 - Index of /opensuse/distribution/12.2/repo/oss),
    I added both pacman repos, the Oss, Non-Oss, and Update Repo myself.


    Now, the most common issue is you have not Checked the option Allow Vendor Change. To fully upgrade, I would do the following tasks for openSUSE 12.2 using KDE:

    1. Go to YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Repository and specify the URL addition of the Packman Repository "http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/" excluding the quotes if not already done.
    2. Go to YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Management and select Options and check Allow Vendor Change.
    3. Again, still in Software Management select Package / All Packages / Update if newer version available and press the Accept button on the bottom right.

    Thank You,
    Ill try this right now,
    thanks!

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    On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:06:02 +0000, kpholmes wrote:

    > # zypper lr -d


    Looks like you're missing the "Extra" repo, which is where I found it
    looking through the different Packman repos.

    Jim

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    Default Re: cant install from pacman

    Quote Originally Posted by jdmcdaniel3 View Post
    1. Go to YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Repository and specify the URL addition of the Packman Repository "http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_12.2/" excluding the quotes if not already done.
    2. Go to YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Management and select Options and check Allow Vendor Change.
    3. Again, still in Software Management select Package / All Packages / Update if newer version available and press the Accept button on the bottom right.

    Thank You,
    adding that repo did the trick, couldnt find where to do step 3 in yast terminal; so did a zypper update. but i was able to install the software i was looking for.

    i do have some inclination that the OS the hosting provider gave me is not a complete copy and is missing some important elements. do you think i am at a security disadvantage from not having the standard repos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpholmes View Post
    adding that repo did the trick, couldnt find where to do step 3 in yast terminal; so did a zypper update. but i was able to install the software i was looking for.

    i do have some inclination that the OS the hosting provider gave me is not a complete copy and is missing some important elements. do you think i am at a security disadvantage from not having the standard repos?
    As for security, as long as you have a repo for each installed application and the update ones there and enabled for refresh, you will get security updates for each application and for the kernel. The main drawback might be missing applications you might want to install later. I would take a overall look to see if you have what is required to do what you want with openSUSE. I do suggest you look at this article and make sure you are setup properly for Multimedia.

    https://forums.opensuse.org/content/...uide-12-2.html

    If you find you are missing anything you need, just ask how to get it, but look through your loaded apps first before you ask for help. Consider that there are many different apps that do the same thing. You only need one that works and perhaps one as a backup, but you can not really use five music players. Get one or two to work for you and forget about the rest and your life will be more simple and happy with using Linux. To that end, I use Firefox, but also have Chrome loaded. I use Totem for Video but also have VLC loaded and working. Determine what you want, get something working for each and don't worry about the rest, in my opinion. Reinstalling openSUSE is an option, but take advantage of a working system and perhaps when openSUSE 12.3 comes out, you could then install a fresh to make it work just as you wish.

    Thank You,
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    On 2012-12-07 01:36, kpholmes wrote:
    > i do have some inclination that the OS the hosting provider gave me is
    > not a complete copy and is missing some important elements. do you think
    > i am at a security disadvantage from not having the standard repos?


    Absolutely.

    You have the update repo set at no refresh, and that alone puts you at a
    security risk.


    The oss and non-oss repos canbe set to no refresh because they are fixed.

    You also need the update non oss repo.

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