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    Default Re: openSUSE randomly freezes and becomes unusable after prolonged uptime

    Quote Originally Posted by Iconoclasmic View Post
    I appreciate all of the time you are spending with this, and I am learning a lot. I'm getting the Grand Tour. So I don't mind this a bit.

    I'm getting to know zypper, for example. The most useful command, for me at least, is "zypper se"!

    Now this is interesting: When I try to remove the nvidia package I installed, "nvidia-gfx-kmp-default", zypper wants to replace it with another nvidia package, "nvidia-gfx-kmp-desktop". I certainly do not what that -- right?
    No, you don't want this.
    The reason for this is that "x11-video-nvidia" requires the kernel module, so zypper wants to satisfy this by installing another one (and the matching kernel).
    You have to either uninstall "x11-video-nvidia" first, or remove both at the same time:
    Code:
    sudo zypper rm nvidia-gfx-kmp-default x11-video-nvidia
    By the way, did you see all of the cards nv covers, listed on the log? It seems like the nv people are boasting!
    Yes, but it only supports very basic stuff, no 3d or even hardware decoding...

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    Default Re: openSUSE randomly freezes and becomes unusable after prolonged uptime

    Much better! Nvidia is gone.

    Code:
    # zypper rm nvidia-gfx-kmp-default  x11-video-nvidia
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    Resolving package dependencies...
    
    The following packages are going to be REMOVED:
      nvidia-gfx-kmp-default x11-video-nvidia 
    
    2 packages to remove.
    After the operation, 36.5 MiB will be freed.
    Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): y
    (1/2) Removing nvidia-gfx-kmp-default-96.43.23_k3.7.10_1.1-22.1 .......................................................[done]
    Additional rpm output:
    make: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-96.43.23-default'
    make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-modules/nvidia-96.43.23-default'
    
    
    (2/2) Removing x11-video-nvidia-96.43.23-23.1 .........................................................................[done]
    Additional rpm output:
    /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.xfLy7b: line 17: sax2: command not found
    
    # zypper se nvidia
    (nothing installed)
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Use YaST->System->Boot Loader->Boot Loader Options for permanently adding it, or press 'e' at the boot menu to edit the boot entry for this boot (search for a line starting with "linux" and append it there). Press 'F10' to boot then.
    Done! (I like the grub edit window, now that I know how to get there. I compliment the artist who created the OpenSuSE boot screens: 12.3 is much more better looking than 11.2.)

    Booting, spiral gets greener, wheel appears. logon panel appears, and it's back to normal size!

    Success!

    http://susepaste.org/99772265

    Very pleased -- thank you. Love it. That's one of the wonderful things about Linux: Eventually, it works! I'm truly amazed.



    Quote Originally Posted by wolfi323 View Post
    Yes, but it only supports very basic stuff, no 3d or even hardware decoding...
    I love basic.

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    Default Re: openSUSE randomly freezes and becomes unusable after prolonged uptime

    Well FYI I recently bought a 220 based NVIDIA card for under $30 and it works fine. Works with GO2 driver. Not exactly top end but does support 3D no problem

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    After several weeks of observing and testing, I believe it's safe to say I found and solved the problem, and this case is finally closed. I no longer seem to have any system crashes, even after many days of uptime.

    As I was away for Christmas and new year, I used my laptop for two weeks, which has the exact same software including video driver. It caught over 10 days of uptime without any problem. This was the first indication that it wasn't the issue I used to know long ago (fglrx, which crashed both my PC and laptop) and my desktop computer was the only one that had it. At this moment, my PC also reached 5 days of uptime for the first time.

    The problem was the BIOS setting "Extreme Memory Profile". What it does is running the RAM modules at a higher frequency, which is considered safe and supposed to work although it's higher than the factory defaults. Considering this, I didn't suspect it until recently. My RAM modules are meant to work at 1066 Mhz, and this put them at 1600 Mhz. They do work well like this, but only for a few days at a time.

    SAWP was indeed unrelated. I was linking it to the issue because both the SWAP coming into use and the system crashing happened precisely after a few days. Also, the temporary freezes (system becoming completely unresponsive for 10 - 30 seconds) are unrelated, and the system always recovers from them. Only annoyance here is that if a program freezes for too long, I get an error that "Klauncher could not communicate to the application" or something.

    So yeah... it was overclocking after all. Even if you didn't increase any frequencies manually, be on the lookout for BIOS settings that automatically overclock certain components.
    openSUSE Tumbleweed x64, KDE Framework 5

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    Default Re: openSUSE randomly freezes and becomes unusable after prolongeduptime

    On 2013-12-22 10:56, Iconoclasmic wrote:

    > Everyone reports that the lock-out occurs on resume after suspend, and
    > that is my experience too.


    Huh?

    There is a recent bug in the 32 bit kernel 13.1 uses, and it triggers
    just after hibernation. It is not related to nvidia.

    I have no idea if your problem is related to this one or not. I can try
    to find references to it tomorrow or next day. Ping me if I forget. I
    should go to sleep now... I should have gone hours ago, actually.

    > Is there a way to keep my computer from
    > suspending or going to sleep, short of pressing a key every ten minutes?


    Yes... perhaps.

    Create file "/etc/pm/sleep.d/5inhibit", containing this:

    Code:
    #!/bin/bash
    .. /usr/lib/pm-utils/functions
    RETVAL=0
    
    case "$1" in
    suspend|hibernate)
    RETVAL=1
    #This does not abort.
    touch $INHIBIT
    #This does.
    MESSAGE="Aborting suspend/hibernate because it crashes system. "
    /bin/logger -t pm-utils -p syslog.warn $MESSAGE
    echo "$MESSAGE  Touched $INHIBIT"
    ;;
    
    thaw|resume)
    ;;
    *)
    ;;
    esac
    exit $RETVAL
    I don't know if it works or not. In fact, I think it doesn't, but that
    could be investigated, or the script modified somehow. I use it only to
    try inhibit "suspend", you have to inhibit all. You do not need the
    "case", if that's the problem.



    > When I first started using Linux, it was the new hardware that lacked
    > support. Now it's the old hardware that is falling through the cracks!


    It happens... Maybe you can find a different video card second hand.

    Your problem is not only a bug in nouveau, it is compounded by the
    hardware being different nowdays (agp and ide).

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

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    Default Re: openSUSE randomly freezes and becomes unusable after prolongeduptime

    On 2014-01-12 01:26, MirceaKitsune wrote:
    > So yeah... it was overclocking after all. Even if you didn't increase
    > any frequencies manually, be on the lookout for BIOS settings that
    > automatically overclock certain components.


    I never overclock my machines. My motherboard is designed for
    overclocking, but I am careful not to use those features.

    Good find!

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

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