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    Default I really really hate packagekitd

    Literally 9 times out of ten that I want to install something I cannot because packagekitd is locked. In close to 15 years of using Linux, no other distribution has ever constantly prevented me from installing software so often! Command line or GUI, makes no difference... Kill the daemon and you have a few moments to do something or it restarts

    How often does packagekitd really need to lock?

    So a) can I safely disable packagekitd and if so how?
    Better still, b) can I have packagekitd only do anything, say once every 12 hours?

    Just to make sure that I am not being grumpy about this!

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    On 11/01/2012 07:16 PM, solanum wrote:
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    > Literally 9 times out of ten that I want to install something I cannot
    > because packagekitd is locked. In close to 15 years of using Linux, no
    > other distribution has ever constantly prevented me from installing
    > software so often! Command line or GUI, makes no difference... Kill the
    > daemon and you have a few moments to do something or it restarts
    >
    > How often does packagekitd really need to lock?
    >
    > So a) can I safely disable packagekitd and if so how?
    > Better still, b) can I have packagekitd only do anything, say once
    > every 12 hours?
    >
    > Just to make sure that I am not being grumpy about this!
    >
    >

    I uninstalled my system-tray updater applet. No communication after that.

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    I do not know about the quality of the searching functionality on these forums, but it should have given you more then one thread where people advise to uninstall Apper (and some even uninstalled PackageKit completely).
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    I do not know about the quality of the searching functionality on these forums, but it should have given you more then one thread where people advise to uninstall Apper (and some even uninstalled PackageKit completely).
    Some even use the provided settings to achieve the result.

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    Quote Originally Posted by solanum View Post
    Literally 9 times out of ten that I want to install something I cannot because packagekitd is locked. In close to 15 years of using Linux, no other distribution has ever constantly prevented me from installing software so often! Command line or GUI, makes no difference... Kill the daemon and you have a few moments to do something or it restarts

    How often does packagekitd really need to lock?

    So a) can I safely disable packagekitd and if so how?
    Better still, b) can I have packagekitd only do anything, say once every 12 hours?

    Just to make sure that I am not being grumpy about this!
    Well you got answer on whether you can uninstall or not the packagekit. But i really wanted to replay on your thread just to troll a little bit .
    You know what i hate even more then packagekit? When you trying to do something with zypper and it tells you that it can't do it because of packagekit. And then zypper asks you if like to kill p-kit to go on with your command, and you saying "YES, please kill that packagekit" and it doesn't!!!!! But instead zypper keeps asking you all the same question until you say "NO" and then zypper throws message at you that operation was stopped on users behalf!!! GRRRRR. Why ask me to kill packagekit if you can't kill it???... ok i stop trolling now.
    Obviously usually for me it is a moment that i go "oh yeah, let's remove that kit all together", but it irritates me nevertheless. And even though i do remove packagekit, as many others do, i do think that it should not be removed. I'm running openSUSE on my laptop (desktop) so i do want to be reminded about security updates without me have to open console once a week and run zypper up, or add cron job or any script or subscribe to mailing lists, or anything of this kind. Just a notification in my systray, press - install updates - done, please go on with your daily work.
    Ok enough of trolling...

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    Quote Originally Posted by mkudro View Post
    Well you got answer on whether you can uninstall or not the packagekit. But i really wanted to replay on your thread just to troll a little bit .
    You know what i hate even more then packagekit? When you trying to do something with zypper and it tells you that it can't do it because of packagekit. And then zypper asks you if like to kill p-kit to go on with your command, and you saying "YES, please kill that packagekit" and it doesn't!!!!! But instead zypper keeps asking you all the same question until you say "NO" and then zypper throws message at you that operation was stopped on users behalf!!! GRRRRR. Why ask me to kill packagekit if you can't kill it???... ok i stop trolling now.
    Obviously usually for me it is a moment that i go "oh yeah, let's remove that kit all together", but it irritates me nevertheless. And even though i do remove packagekit, as many others do, i do think that it should not be removed. I'm running openSUSE on my laptop (desktop) so i do want to be reminded about security updates without me have to open console once a week and run zypper up, or add cron job or any script or subscribe to mailing lists, or anything of this kind. Just a notification in my systray, press - install updates - done, please go on with your daily work.
    Ok enough of trolling...
    yes, well that is exactly what I am referring too. Your peeves are precisely mine, no way is that a troll.

    As to the other answers, thanks, but I am not an idiot I am aware I can uninstall it. I was wondering about disabling it without uninstall (ie temporarily), obviously I wasn't clear enough.

    Secondly, my stated preferred option is to have packagekitd do it's thing less often. Surely there is a configuration file somewhere that I haven't found?

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    On 2012-11-01 12:26, solanum wrote:
    > Secondly, my stated preferred option is to have packagekitd do it's
    > thing less often. Surely there is a configuration file somewhere that I
    > haven't found?


    If you use KDE, yes, there is a configuration click.

    Temporarily, you can simply rename the application that pops the applet.

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    On 11/01/2012 12:26 PM, solanum wrote:
    > I was wondering about disabling it without uninstall (ie
    > temporarily), obviously I wasn't clear enough.


    right click in its icon in the tray and select disable ??

    that worked on _my_ KDE, but you didn't say what DE is in use by "I am
    not an idiot"..

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    Quote Originally Posted by dd View Post
    On 11/01/2012 12:26 PM, solanum wrote:
    > I was wondering about disabling it without uninstall (ie
    > temporarily), obviously I wasn't clear enough.


    right click in its icon in the tray and select disable ??

    that worked on _my_ KDE, but you didn't say what DE is in use by "I am
    not an idiot"..
    And the icon is only in the tray when updates are available [on my default 12.2 KDE].

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    Default Re: I really really hate packagekitd

    Quote Originally Posted by dd View Post
    On 11/01/2012 12:26 PM, solanum wrote:
    > I was wondering about disabling it without uninstall (ie
    > temporarily), obviously I wasn't clear enough.


    right click in its icon in the tray and select disable ??

    that worked on _my_ KDE, but you didn't say what DE is in use by "I am
    not an idiot"..

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    Except as noted elsewhere, the icon isn't always there...

    However, I have found it in the Service Manager, where Apper can be disabled (temporarily or permanently), so thanks to the person who suggested that. Hopefully, packagekitd is only locking because of apper and isn't doing it of its own accord...? What happens if packagekitd is locked when you disable it in the service manager... hopefully it doesn't stay locked and it stops immediately?

    But I take it from the other replies that there is no way of configuring it rather than disabling it then?

    For the record, searching the forum here brought up several messages about uninstalling everything and a lot of ranting - going through it again I did find some useful information several pages down a recent thread, but still nothing about configuring Apper (which I now see is the problem as it is calling packagekitd). Also openSUSE 12.2 64 bit stock KDE.

    Oh for the days when everything a configuration file you could edit.... e.g. .apper : update_interval=43200

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