Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 29 of 29

Thread: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...

  1. #21
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    25,547

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...

    On 2012-10-17 12:51, dd wrote:
    > On 10/17/2012 12:41 PM, dd wrote:
    >> how that impacts either nntp or http or both or neither!!

    >
    > nice, a good impact on both!!
    > thanks for the tip!!!
    > maybe someone with the keys to the faq could put that good tip in the
    > right place...somewhere..


    :-)

    Just look at mine: in Thunderbird you see my real name, instead of the
    login name. Via web you only see my login name.

    But this is the same as in emails.

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    25,547

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...

    On 2012-10-17 15:15, JtWdyP@OpenSuSE_Forum wrote:

    > You mean like this?? {snicker}
    >
    >
    Code:
    "JtWdyP@OpenSuSE_Forum" <jtwdyp@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>


    Not really... put on the left side whatever you prefer to be displayed
    as your name. Your real name, alias... whatever you want us to use to
    talk to you (Hey you!) :-)


    > I don't really understand why shorter would be better? I myself have never
    > liked the way email and newsreader clients would display all of the
    > following:
    >
    Code:
    > "red" <purple@black.and.blue.com>
    > "red" <big.bad.wolf@fairytails.r.us>
    > "red" <spoofer@spamalot.org>
    > "red" <robin@yum.net>
    >
    > simply as "red"...


    Some readers are tunable, but most display the left side, that part
    inside "" symbols, if present. If not most will display the entire
    address as posted.


    > I mean really, what would be the real advantage of my using:
    >
    Code:
    "JtWdyP" <jtwdyp@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
    > be to anybody???


    You put "JtWdyP" or whatever you like that we call you.

    (I'm almost sure there will be an RFC about this somewhere)

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

  3. #23

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...



    It would appear that on Oct 17, Carlos E. R. did say:

    > On 2012-10-17 15:15, JtWdyP@OpenSuSE_Forum wrote:
    >
    > > You mean like this?? {snicker}
    > >
    > >
    Code:
    "JtWdyP@OpenSuSE_Forum" <jtwdyp@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>

    >
    > Not really... put on the left side whatever you prefer to be displayed
    > as your name. Your real name, alias... whatever you want us to use to
    > talk to you (Hey you!) :-)


    Yeah, I got that. But I'm a lousy conformist. So I just had to resist a
    little...

    > Some readers are tunable, but most display the left side, that part
    > inside "" symbols, if present. If not most will display the entire
    > address as posted.


    OK now if the field length devoted to that was variable... Then I suppose
    showing the whole ema could leave less room for the subject in a monoline
    index display... I'll try to be good from now on. But just so you know,
    I've gotta fix alpine's role settings in a total of 9 installed linux
    (4 on this laptop, & 5 on my desktop) before I can be sure the bare address
    won't be automatically fed to my by one I haven't fixed yet... Please be
    patient...

    --
    JtWdyP


  4. #24
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    25,547

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...

    On 2012-10-17 23:56, jtwdyp@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org wrote:

    > OK now if the field length devoted to that was variable... Then I suppose
    > showing the whole ema could leave less room for the subject in a monoline
    > index display... I'll try to be good from now on. But just so you know,
    > I've gotta fix alpine's role settings in a total of 9 installed linux
    > (4 on this laptop, & 5 on my desktop) before I can be sure the bare address
    > won't be automatically fed to my by one I haven't fixed yet... Please be
    > patient...


    ROTFL!

    Question for you now :-)

    How do you manage to keep track of what posts you have already read with
    Alpine, from session to session?

    I can't.

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

  5. #25

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...


    It would appear that on Oct 17, Carlos E. R. did say:

    > Question for you now :-)
    >
    > How do you manage to keep track of what posts you have already read with
    > Alpine, from session to session?
    >
    > I can't.


    Well that depends... {grin}

    As you probably know Alpine doesn't keep an internal index data file, but
    relies on the available flags for whatever type of folder the
    message/article/post is in... This is especially limited in the case of a
    Usenet group where all there is for the state of the message index from a
    previous session is the newsrc which I think only tracks if a message has
    been deleted. Or more accurately in Alpines case, "if it's been excluded"

    I have figured out a couple of strategies to deal with this.

    In the case where there is another source for reviewing older posts (such
    as OpenSuSE's http forum interface, I simply save the ones that spark my
    interest to a local folder, and delete/exclude the rest as I read and or
    decide not to... If it comes to my attention that I may have missed
    something good, I can just use http to look back...

    When such a useful back-up access isn't available, then I can, but rarely
    bother to back-up the newsrc. IE: something like:


    cp ~/.newsrc-forums.opensuse.org ~/rcbu/2012.10.17.newsrc-forums.opensuse.org

    Then assuming I exclude as I go, but have a reason to look back to last week's posts,
    All I need to do is to look in ~/rcbu/ for a file beginning with something
    like 2012.10.10* to copy back over the current ~/.newsrc-forums.opensuse.org
    to restore every post since then to an unread state. Always remembering
    that the ones that caught my interest on the way by are already in a local folder...

    works for me.

    --
    JtWdyP


  6. #26
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    25,547

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...

    On 2012-10-18 02:25, JtWdyP wrote:

    > Well that depends... {grin}
    >
    > As you probably know Alpine doesn't keep an internal index data file, but
    > relies on the available flags for whatever type of folder the
    > message/article/post is in... This is especially limited in the case of a
    > Usenet group where all there is for the state of the message index from a
    > previous session is the newsrc which I think only tracks if a message has
    > been deleted. Or more accurately in Alpines case, "if it's been excluded"


    Oh. I hopped you had found a better way. You describe what I knew and
    disliked :-)

    I'll keep using thunderbird, then. I tried slrn, but I did not like the
    interface, either, or something. I'll have another look at it, though.

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    25,547

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...

    On 2012-10-18 03:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2012-10-18 02:25, JtWdyP wrote:


    > I'll keep using thunderbird, then. I tried slrn, but I did not like the
    > interface, either, or something. I'll have another look at it, though.


    Mmm. I can not make a post, because I can not even set the address to
    use: it wants to use "<cer@Telcontar.valinor>", my local user name.

    Otherwise, it does not mark read posts. While you are reading, it marks
    them with a 'D', but this is not permanent. No, it is! Posts are
    deleted. I do not want that.

    Wow, it doesn't even remember my preferences of how to sort posts, what
    headers to display... pretty cumbersome.

    I see why I rejected it. :-/

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

  8. #28

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...


    It would appear that on Oct 18, Carlos E. R. did say:

    > Oh. I hopped you had found a better way. You describe what I knew and
    > disliked :-)


    Just noticed something. As you likely know alpine will time out and close
    the folder out from under you if you send too much time reading/composing a
    reply to a message. But since I was just quickly looking at enough of a
    message to know if I wanted to save a local copy, the only time it timed
    out was when I was busy composing a reply. So I started postponing any
    replies immediately and cot to actually close the group folder before it
    timed out. (That is I opened another folder but didn't let Alpine "delete"
    all 15 messages. {That's how many I hadn't already excluded}).

    Anyway, the next time I opened the group folder the first 15 messages
    didn't have a New flag... But the rest did. So I'm thinking that if you can
    close the folder before it times out, then you might be able to use the "N"
    new flags to determine unread after all...

    It would still be a pita if you don't "delete" and/or "save & delete" the
    old stuff.

    --
    | --- ___
    | <0> <->
    | ^ JtWdyP
    | ~\___/~

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    25,547

    Default Re: keyboard navigation of forum and the "next" page link image...

    On 2012-10-18 20:05, JtWdyP wrote:
    > It would still be a pita if you don't "delete" and/or "save & delete" the
    > old stuff.


    Too complicated for me :-)

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •