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    Default 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    I have recently installed 12.2, and then upgraded KDE to 4.9.1 by adding the appropriate KDE repos, and then switching the system files to those repos in YAST. Since then every time I try to update my system I am offered Opensuse-2012-588 which is KDE 4.8.5 stable update. I don't understand why I am being offered this 'update' given that KDE is now running at 4.9.1 'Release 561', and the repos have been switched. I have set out below the current state of my repos:

    Code:
    #  | Alias                   | Name                          | Enabled | Refresh
    ---+-------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+--------
     1 | KDE_49                  | KDE_49                        | Yes     | Yes    
     2 | KDE_Extra               | KDE_Extra                     | Yes     | Yes    
     3 | Packman Repository      | Packman Repository            | Yes     | Yes    
     4 | libdvdcss repository    | libdvdcss repository          | Yes     | Yes    
     5 | nVidia Graphics Drivers | nVidia Graphics Drivers       | Yes     | Yes    
     6 | repo-non-oss            | openSUSE-12.2-Non-Oss         | Yes     | Yes    
     7 | repo-oss                | openSUSE-12.2-Oss             | Yes     | Yes    
     8 | repo-update             | openSUSE-12.2-Update          | Yes     | Yes    
     9 | repo-update-non-oss     | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Non-Oss  | Yes     | Yes    
    10 | spideroak-stable        | SpiderOak Stable Distribution | Yes     | No
    Can anyone suggest a reason and hopefully a solution for this behaviour?

    Regards

    Phil

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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    On 09/18/12 10:46, pfnorris pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > I have recently installed 12.2, and then upgraded KDE to 4.9.1 by adding
    > the appropriate KDE repos, and then switching the system files to those
    > repos in YAST. Since then every time I try to update my system I am
    > offered Opensuse-2012-588 which is KDE 4.8.5 stable update. I don't
    > understand why I am being offered this 'update' given that KDE is now
    > running at 4.9.1 'Release 561', and the repos have been switched. I have
    > set out below the current state of my repos:
    >
    >
    > Code:
    > --------------------
    > # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
    > ---+-------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+--------
    > 1 | KDE_49 | KDE_49 | Yes | Yes
    > 2 | KDE_Extra | KDE_Extra | Yes | Yes
    > 3 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes
    > 4 | libdvdcss repository | libdvdcss repository | Yes | Yes
    > 5 | nVidia Graphics Drivers | nVidia Graphics Drivers | Yes | Yes
    > 6 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
    > 7 | repo-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Oss | Yes | Yes
    > 8 | repo-update | openSUSE-12.2-Update | Yes | Yes
    > 9 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-12.2-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
    > 10 | spideroak-stable | SpiderOak Stable Distribution | Yes | No
    > --------------------
    >
    >
    > Can anyone suggest a reason and hopefully a solution for this
    > behaviour?
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Phil
    >
    >

    Change the priority of the KDE 4.9 repo to a higher value (lower number).

    Ken

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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    Missing is the precise info on what you do. Like saying " every time I try to update my system". How? zypper something, YaST > Software > Software management > ???
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by hcvv View Post
    Missing is the precise info on what you do. Like saying " every time I try to update my system". How? zypper something, YaST > Software > Software management > ???
    Apologies

    I ran the command
    Code:
    sudo zypper lp
    and got the reply below:

    Code:
    Repository           | Name              | Version | Category    | Status | Summary                                          
    ---------------------+-------------------+---------+-------------+--------+--------------------------------------------------
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-588 | 1       | recommended | needed | KDE: 4.8.5 stable update                         
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-604 | 1       | recommended | needed | xorg-x11-server: build vnc server with DAMAGE e->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-609 | 1       | recommended | needed | opensuse-manuals_en: updates the docs and two b->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-611 | 1       | recommended | needed | SuSEfirewall2: fix FW_HTB_TUNE_DEV by removing ->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-612 | 1       | recommended | needed | icedtea-web: update to 1.3                       
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-613 | 1       | recommended | needed | glib2: Fix regression introduced with the lates->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-615 | 1       | security    | needed | bind: fixed a remote denial of service attack (->
    Phil

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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    These are recommended updates for the default openSUSE install. You added the KDE:/Release:/49 repo.
    What was asked for is the info "How did you install KDE49?". You're supposed to either do a "Switch system packages" on the KDE49 repo, or do
    Code:
    su -c 'zypper dup --from KDE_49'
    If after this you run a
    Code:
    su -c 'zypper ref && zypper up'
    zypper will look for updates in the KDE repo where it concerns packages installed from that repo.

    Any other way of upgrading to KDE49 will bring trouble like the system wanting to downgrade your entire KDE on every update
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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    It's just a bug and won't be fixed for this release, maybe for 12.2.

    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ml#post2486878

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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by pfnorris View Post
    Apologies

    I ran the command
    Code:
    sudo zypper lp
    and got the reply below:

    Code:
    Repository           | Name              | Version | Category    | Status | Summary                                          
    ---------------------+-------------------+---------+-------------+--------+--------------------------------------------------
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-588 | 1       | recommended | needed | KDE: 4.8.5 stable update                         
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-604 | 1       | recommended | needed | xorg-x11-server: build vnc server with DAMAGE e->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-609 | 1       | recommended | needed | opensuse-manuals_en: updates the docs and two b->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-611 | 1       | recommended | needed | SuSEfirewall2: fix FW_HTB_TUNE_DEV by removing ->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-612 | 1       | recommended | needed | icedtea-web: update to 1.3                       
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-613 | 1       | recommended | needed | glib2: Fix regression introduced with the lates->
    openSUSE-12.2-Update | openSUSE-2012-615 | 1       | security    | needed | bind: fixed a remote denial of service attack (->
    Phil
    That is fine, but I also (mainly) asked how you do the updates that give you the headache. I repeat, you only say: " every time I try to update my system". This only a plain English text, which hides a lot of different technical possibilities. Others here allready suggest you use zypper patch and zypper up, but you did not tell what you use.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    Thanks all for the replies. Looks like I'm not the first to fall over this bug as a fix is planned for 12.3. How do I mark this thread solved?

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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by pfnorris View Post
    Thanks all for the replies. Looks like I'm not the first to fall over this bug as a fix is planned for 12.3. How do I mark this thread solved?
    The bug simply doesn't show up if you follow the steps I (and others in other threads) described.
    From the GUI of Yast this means:
    - Switch system packages on the KDE49 repo ( = zypper dup --from "KDE repo name" ), after that do nothing else but
    - Package - All packages - Upgrade if a newer version is available ( = zypper up )

    The "zypper ref" runs on starting the GUI.
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    Default Re: 12.2 KDE4.9.1 Wants to Downgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knurpht View Post
    The bug simply doesn't show up if you follow the steps I (and others in other threads) described.
    From the GUI of Yast this means:
    - Switch system packages on the KDE49 repo ( = zypper dup --from "KDE repo name" ), after that do nothing else but
    - Package - All packages - Upgrade if a newer version is available ( = zypper up )

    The "zypper ref" runs on starting the GUI.
    This doesn't seem to go nicely if you have the application Gnucash installed (from either the 'oss' or 'update' repos). There are some issues with missing dependencies and a `dup --from your-kde-repo` will complain and asks me to uninstall gnucash. Then again, gnucash itself is having some dependency bugs worked out and those could solve this once it's fixed.
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780827

    I've found it easier to just lock/mask out the offending patch:
    Code:
    sudo zypper al -t patch openSUSE-2012-588
    `al` is the add-lock option.

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