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Thread: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

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    jdd NNTP User

    Default mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    Hello,
    I have a curious but annoying problem I don't know how to manage.

    I have my own imap server (dodin.org) with postfix / dovecot / squirrel and openSUSE 11.4.

    The distro is up to date (zypper dup just now).

    I have this problem since two days. The only thing I did *on the client* is to update 12.1 to 12.2, no idea if it have anything to do with it.

    The problem is simple: the messages have no content. Same result with thunderbird, kmail or squirrellmail

    Only my account have the problem.

    Here the test message I see in my account , send from a third party smtp:


    Code:
    X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on linux-zz28.site 
    X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Message-ID: <504B0B24.5060007@free.fr>
     Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:08:52 +0200 From: jdd <jdanield@free.fr> 
    To: jdd <jdd@dodin.org>, christiane Dodin <c1d2009@dodin.org> 
    Subject: test imap jdd MIME-Version: 1.0

    and here what I see for the very same message on my mothers account (same server)

    Code:
    Return-Path: <jdanield@free.fr> 
    X-Original-To: c1d2009@dodin.org
     Delivered-To: c1d2009@dodin.org
     Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5])
         by dodin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF16144;
         Sat,  8 Sep 2012 11:05:57 +0200 (CEST)
     Received: from [192.168.0.102] (unknown [82.228.59.89]) 
        by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB730D4810E;     
    Sat,  8 Sep 2012 11:08:54 +0200 (CEST) 
    Message-ID: <504B0B24.5060007@free.fr> 
    Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:08:52 +0200 
    From: jdd <jdanield@free.fr>
     User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0
    To: jdd <jdd@dodin.org>, christiane Dodin <c1d2009@dodin.org> 
    Subject: test imap jdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit  
    
    (random content  )
    
    1 toganm@opensuse.or Mon Jun  4 11:27   91/4291  
    Re:  [opensuse-buildservice] first steps   F 12 pgajdos@suse.cz    Mon Jun  4 11:28   99/3885  Re:  [opensuse-buildservice] first steps   F 13 jdd@dodin.org      Mon Jun  4 11:45  10
    any idea?
    thanks
    jdd

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    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    The distro is up to date (zypper dup just now).
    It might not matter for your problem, but I do not se how you can use zypper dup to make a distro up to date. You use zypper dup to change products to another vendor repo which has newer versions of packages. You do that e.g. when you go from one level of openSUSE to the next. But to have the newest versions of the repos on your system of the packages you installed, you use zypper up. zypper dup can bork what you have (e.g switch back part of your multi media setup to OSS away from Packman).
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    On 2012-09-08 11:46, jdd wrote:
    > The problem is simple: the messages have no content. Same result with
    > thunderbird, kmail or squirrellmail


    check around content filtering: amavis, spamd.

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    jdd NNTP User

    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    I was instructed to prefere zypper dup against zypper up, but I have to say I have difficulties to sort the various zypper update processes (du, up, patch...). I have read many things but still not very clear for me.

    I do not have filtering on the server (not that I know of :-(), and I don't see why this should only impact my account and not other people account. May it be some local account setup ? local quota? postfix limit?

    in main.cf, message_size_limit = 10000000

    to not lose messages, I just added (after I posted the first message here) an dalias to an external mail account I have also and there the messages come complete.

    my personal account is only 5Gb and /home have 30Gb available.

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    jdd NNTP User

    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    I forgot to add an important thing. Since I updated locally (not the server) with 12.2, I get error messages in thunderbird. Stranges messages.

    to be complete, before having fully empty messages, I had duplicated messages (one normal, the other empty safe the visible header part).

    First error message said "not found", then from time to time "what is the good one, left or right" and shows two messages. No idea what, but that it may be the duplicate.

    So, may be any application part of the process may have taken strong mesure to stop this :-(. imap is dovecot. I don't see where this could have been stored :-(

    thanks
    jdd

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    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    Am 08.09.2012 13:36, schrieb jdd:
    > I was instructed to prefere zypper dup against zypper up,

    Can you give us a link where you have instructed to use dup? So that we
    can see and understand the context of this advise.
    As Henk told you in general this has a high risk of borking your system
    if you have not only the standard repositories (and almost nobody has
    only oss, non-oss and update, at least packman is enabled by most people
    and often more in addition).

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    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    On 09/08/12 08:22, Martin Helm pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
    > Am 08.09.2012 13:36, schrieb jdd:
    >> I was instructed to prefere zypper dup against zypper up,

    > Can you give us a link where you have instructed to use dup? So that we
    > can see and understand the context of this advise.
    > As Henk told you in general this has a high risk of borking your system
    > if you have not only the standard repositories (and almost nobody has
    > only oss, non-oss and update, at least packman is enabled by most people
    > and often more in addition).
    >


    Oh please! If one has the priorities set properly for their repos that
    won't happen. I always use zypper dup and never have problems with my
    systems being "borked".

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    jdd NNTP User

    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    I can't find my own answer but:

    SDBypper usage 11.3 - openSUSE
    if you ever add a new repo, zypper up wont update with this one, zypper dup do. It's what I understand. By the way my server have a limited number of repositories (including packman, sure :-(). and change are unfrequent in this part.

    by the way, I moved all my INBOX content to archive and this seemed to fix the problem. I have contents again. probably some qirk with the mailbox content.

    thanks
    jdd

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    jdd NNTP User

    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

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    Code:
    "conflict resolution - Mail Filter agent"
    Two updates conflict with each other.
    Please choose wich update to apply
    
     
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    jdd

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    Default Re: mail problem (dovecot, postfix, thunderbird?)

    Am 08.09.2012 14:40, schrieb Ken Schneider:
    > Oh please! If one has the priorities set properly for their repos that
    > won't happen. I always use zypper dup and never have problems with my
    > systems being "borked".

    That will not work in general, it may work for you and your special needs.
    Working with repository priorities is a very coarse way of dealing with
    packages. My mileage varies in that I need the packages which I decided
    to be from a specific vendor stay with that vendor and that is what
    "zypper up" is designed for and works.
    "zypper dup" is simply designed for a completely different use case,
    while you might be able to trick it into what you like (to disallow
    vendor change for example) I see no point in doing so when the right
    option is available separately.

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