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    Default The lone dot issue bites again.

    Via nntp I only see a paragraph. On Jim reply I see several more paragraphs separated by lone dots.
    I understood the dot issue had been already solved... :-(

    More. There is also a post from wa6mbz with only a “Hello All,” line. Where is the rest?

    Cheers

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: 12.2 network but still there
    Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:46:49 GMT
    From: Jim Henderson <hendersj@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
    Newsgroups: opensuse.org.help.network-internet
    References: <wa6mbz.5ifm1z@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>

    On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:36:01 +0000, wa6mbz wrote:

    > Hello SUSE,
    >
    >
    > Suse 12.2 still has a bug in the wireless networking aspect of things.
    > If you sign up for wireless access to your router and then reboot your
    > system, the computer forgets about the settings, the passwords and
    > routers, just like 12.1 did.
    > .
    > To fix this mess, you still have to remove the old setting, take down
    > the computer, ie, not just reboot, and then re-install the network info.
    > Then it works until you reboot or shut down the next time.
    > .
    > This getting rather annoying and someone who knows what they are doing
    > should get on it. I have noticed this on five of my older laptops,
    > three toshibas and 2 lenovos. That means that it is not just me with a
    > screwy network card.
    > .
    > Thank you in advance for your consideration.


    Like caf, I've not observed this in 12.1 - have you reported it in
    bugzilla? If so, what's the bug number? If you haven't, you might want
    to after some steps are taken troubleshooting it here.

    Jim

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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    I understood the dot issue had been already solved... :-(
    I am not seeing the problem. So I assume that it is exclusively an NNTP problem.

    Presumably, somewhere along the line to you, some system is flubbing the dot stuffing required by the NNTP protocol.
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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:40:41 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > Via nntp I only see a paragraph. On Jim reply I see several more
    > paragraphs separated by lone dots.
    > I understood the dot issue had been already solved... :-(
    >
    > More. There is also a post from wa6mbz with only a “Hello All,” line.
    > Where is the rest?


    Both posts come back from the NNTP server properly, it's probably your
    leafnode cache that's not handling it properly. Maybe that's why you see
    it when those of us who access the NNTP server directly don't.

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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    On 2012-09-07 02:58, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:40:41 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:


    > Both posts come back from the NNTP server properly, it's probably your
    > leafnode cache that's not handling it properly. Maybe that's why you see
    > it when those of us who access the NNTP server directly don't.


    No, I see the same issue when connected with pan directly without leafnode.

    I deleted the group in pan, unsusbscribed it, told it to delete the articles, then subscribed again,
    loaded the headers, and still those two articles are incomplete.

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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    On 2012-09-07 03:45, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2012-09-07 02:58, Jim Henderson wrote:



    > I deleted the group in pan, unsusbscribed it, told it to delete the articles, then subscribed again,
    > loaded the headers, and still those two articles are incomplete.
    >


    I deleted all the groups in pan, exited the program (twice). On the second time, after readding the
    server, now I can see the full post.

    I don't understand it.

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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    nrickert wrote:

    > I am not seeing the problem. So I assume that it is exclusively an
    > NNTP problem.


    We seem to have established the problem is where a period is placed
    ..
    between lines
    ..
    when done from http, some nntp readers have an issue.

    @malcolmlewis and I have been trading comments in the mod area

    My knode reader is seeing all posts
    His claws is not

    We'll keep you posted.

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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    On 09/07/2012 03:48 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > I don't understand it.


    neither do i!

    i _can_ see all of the post here (in this thread) by caf with a lone dot
    between lines, but i can not see past the first lone dot in "wa6mbz's"
    post
    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ml#post2484112

    [using thunderbird 15.0-27.1 in 11.4 32]

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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    My knode reader is seeing all posts
    If it works with knode, but not with claws or thunderbird, then it is probably a client problem rather than a server problem.

    Since you already have knode installed, if you also have either claws or thunderbird installed you might try that. That will show wheter it varies between clients on the same computer with the same network connections.
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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:45:32 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2012-09-07 02:58, Jim Henderson wrote:
    >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:40:41 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    >
    >> Both posts come back from the NNTP server properly, it's probably your
    >> leafnode cache that's not handling it properly. Maybe that's why you
    >> see it when those of us who access the NNTP server directly don't.

    >
    > No, I see the same issue when connected with pan directly without
    > leafnode.


    What version of pan?

    Pan is the newsreader I use, and I'm seeing the messages properly. I run
    Pan 0.135.

    > I deleted the group in pan, unsusbscribed it, told it to delete the
    > articles, then subscribed again,
    > loaded the headers, and still those two articles are incomplete.


    Each time I load the headers, I see that they are complete.

    Jim

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    Default Re: The lone dot issue bites again.

    On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:48:23 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2012-09-07 03:45, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    >> On 2012-09-07 02:58, Jim Henderson wrote:

    >
    >
    >> I deleted the group in pan, unsusbscribed it, told it to delete the
    >> articles, then subscribed again,
    >> loaded the headers, and still those two articles are incomplete.
    >>
    >>

    > I deleted all the groups in pan, exited the program (twice). On the
    > second time, after readding the server, now I can see the full post.
    >
    > I don't understand it.


    With pan do you have both your local leafnode cache and the remote server
    configured?

    The reason I ask is that confronted with multiple servers hosting the
    same groups, Pan picks one or the other when an article is present on
    multiple servers. It was initially designed to pull multipart binaries
    from alt.binaries groups (as a primary purpose), and in that setup when
    there are multiple parts spread across multiple servers, but no server
    has all the parts, and it transparently reconstructs the original group
    of posts with multiparts.

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