LibreOffice in 12.2 still defective

[robertsmits]

I just installed LibreOffice from OpenSuse 12.2 and the problem with not printing landscape pages properly has still not been fixed. My fix is to remove LibreOffice completely, and set YAST to never install LibreOffice. Then I just install OpenOffice 3.3, which works just fine. It also tells me the problem is not with the printer, printer drivers, or OpenSuSE but LibreOffice.

Bob

[martin_helm]

It is a upstream bug, not even solved in Libre Office 3.6, there are
workarounds though. But if you feel comfortable with OO 3.3 there is of
course nothing wrong using that.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44664
It affects not only openSUSE (I see Mageia, Fedora, PCLinuxOS there as
well).

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[cornflake76]

Martin Helm wrote:
> It is a upstream bug, not even solved in Libre Office 3.6, there are
> workarounds though. But if you feel comfortable with OO 3.3 there is of
> course nothing wrong using that.
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44664
> It affects not only openSUSE (I see Mageia, Fedora, PCLinuxOS there as
> well).
>
Yep. Some genius decided to make PDF the default printing language,
instead of PostScript, which is widely supported. I don't get what is
taking so long for them to make PostScript the default again.

[robertsmits]

Martin Helm wrote:
> It is a upstream bug, not even solved in Libre Office 3.6, there are
> workarounds though. But if you feel comfortable with OO 3.3 there is of
> course nothing wrong using that.
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44664
> It affects not only openSUSE (I see Mageia, Fedora, PCLinuxOS there as
> well).
>
Yep. Some genius decided to make PDF the default printing language,
instead of PostScript, which is widely supported. I don't get what is
taking so long for them to make PostScript the default again.

What I do not understand is why Open Suse chooses to use a version of LibreOffice that does not work for it's users. It's somewhat the same with Gnucash since the supplied version (with 12.2) won't even start up. We give newcomers to Linux the impression that Linux software just doesn't work.

[glistwan]

What I do not understand is why Open Suse chooses to use a version of LibreOffice that does not work for it's users. It's somewhat the same with Gnucash since the supplied version (with 12.2) won't even start up. We give newcomers to Linux the impression that Linux software just doesn't work.

I guess it's for political reasons. OpenSUSE was one of the first distros to ship LibreOffice.

Another reason might be that just not so many people use this feature. I myself never use it and am happy with Libre.
Anyway you can always use google docs but I totally agree with you that that is poor software choice from openSUSE (unless OO has even more severe bugs ) that might drive away newcomers to the Linux world. Who knows.

[Cloddy]

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:46:01 GMT
robertsmits <robertsmits@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> What I do not understand is why Open Suse chooses to use a version of
> LibreOffice that does not work for it's users. It's somewhat the same
> with Gnucash since the supplied version (with 12.2) won't even start
> up. We give newcomers to Linux the impression that Linux software just
> doesn't work.

I admit that I'm splitting hairs here but the supplied version with
12.2, 2.4.10, does work. The problem is that you have to install that
first before installing any updates. Version 2.4.11 that gets installed
from the Update repo doesn't include links to all the necessary
additional software and so, if you install that without having first
installed 2.4.10, you are up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
Wouldn't it be nice if software was tested before it was released?


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Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

[martin_helm]

Am 11.09.2012 04:46, schrieb robertsmits:
> What I do not understand is why Open Suse chooses to use a version of
> LibreOffice that does not work for it's users.
It works for many users out of the box. I am one of the unlucky ones
with a printer where it has a problem, the problem was easily solved by
editing
/usr/lib64/libreoffice/share/psprint/psprint.conf
and setting the PSLevel and PDFDevice to 0 for the affected printer queue.
I would be more than reluctant to be forced using a very old version of
the office software just because of an unpleasant default setting which
is anyway configurable.

I cannot argue about gnucash since I do not use it.

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[glistwan]

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:46:01 GMT
robertsmits <robertsmits@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> What I do not understand is why Open Suse chooses to use a version of
> LibreOffice that does not work for it's users. It's somewhat the same
> with Gnucash since the supplied version (with 12.2) won't even start
> up. We give newcomers to Linux the impression that Linux software just
> doesn't work.

I admit that I'm splitting hairs here but the supplied version with
12.2, 2.4.10, does work. The problem is that you have to install that
first before installing any updates. Version 2.4.11 that gets installed
from the Update repo doesn't include links to all the necessary
additional software and so, if you install that without having first
installed 2.4.10, you are up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
Wouldn't it be nice if software was tested before it was released?


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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.1; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

It is tested we are part of the testers group.

[martin_helm]

Am 11.09.2012 10:23, schrieb Graham P Davis:
> Wouldn't it be nice if software was tested before it was released?
This is a community linux distro, that means WE are the testers, that is
the reason why the milestones and release candidates and factory repos
are public.
Of course in that case that does not help too much if someone puts an
update into the update repo which has a deficiency.
Not that you misunderstand me, of course I also expect a certain level
of testing by the packagers, developers not to break things but this can
never be as good as the end user testing.
Is the bug for the updated gnucash packages already reported?

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[upscope]

Martin Helm wrote:

> Am 11.09.2012 04:46, schrieb robertsmits:
>> What I do not understand is why Open Suse chooses to
use a version of
>> LibreOffice that does not work for it's users.
> It works for many users out of the box. I am one of
the unlucky ones
> with a printer where it has a problem, the problem was
easily solved
> by editing
> /usr/lib64/libreoffice/share/psprint/psprint.conf
> and setting the PSLevel and PDFDevice to 0 for the
affected printer
> queue. I would be more than reluctant to be forced
using a very old
> version of the office software just because of an
unpleasant default
> setting which is anyway configurable.
>
> I cannot argue about gnucash since I do not use it.
>
First thanks for posting your work around. I have a
Brothers MFC J6710DW printer. I found that setting
PDF_Device=0 and PS Level=0 did not work but setting OS
Level =3 and PDf=0 it works. A funny thing is setting PS
Level to 3 actual shows as 2 in psprint.conf. This was
discussed in another thread last wek. No sure where I
saw it.|I will try your approach again, could have been
operator problem.

Thanks again.
Russ
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