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    Default Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    I've started experiencing strange behaviour with the mouse and KDE. After a few minutes of working, using mostly Thunderbird and Firefox I find that the mouse will not respond on any of the window decorations or other windows apart from the one I was working on.

    My mouse button control is severely impaired. The mouse control of window features is sometimes limited to one window with the rest of the desktop not responding to mouse actions. Popping up a second window (Alt-Tab) causes the mouse control to be completely lost. The issue leaves KDE effectively broken having only keyboard control. With some ESC key hits and Alt-F4 to close the focused window, I can move focus to another window but mouse control within the window is non-existent. Moving windows or raising or lowering doesn't work either. Sometimes, the GUI captures the mouse click but does not recognize the active window and applies it to objects sitting on the desktop screen underneath. Nothing on the panel responds to mouse clicks apart from the kicker which opens but I am not able to make a selection from it.

    I'm using 12.1 with KDE 4.7.4. I've tried turning off Desktop Effects which improves things but eventually I end up with the same problem. As an experiment I tried switching to KDE 4.9 but the problem still exists. I don't remember doing any system updates before the problem started so am not sure what kicked this off.

    Has anyone else experienced this behaviour?
    IBM Thinkpad X60s | Intel L2400 | Intel 945GM | 3GB | openSUSE Tumbleweed
    Dell XPS 13 9360 | openSUSE Leap 42.3

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    OK, I did some more testing and the problem definitely doesn't seem related to having desktop effects enabled or not as it manifests itself whether I have desktop effects enabled or not. It just takes longer for the problem to materialise if effects are off. Restarting kwin by using Alt-F2 then typing
    Code:
    kwin --replace&
    restarts kwin and restores some mouse functionality, i.e. I can then click on the various applications on the task panel and bring them into focus but there is still no response when clicking on the window decorations. Killing the session by hitting Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and logging in again doesn't really help either.

    I tried to find clues in the logs but not sure which logs to look in.

    In the kdm.log I have the following:
    Code:
    X.Org X Server 1.10.4
    Release Date: 2011-08-19
    X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
    Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
    Current Operating System: Linux suntp001.site 3.1.10-1.16-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 27 05:21:40 UTC 2012 (d016078) i686
    Kernel command line: root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST9500325AS_5VE9B458-part5 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST9500325AS_5VE9B458-part8 splash=silent quiet vga=0x31a
    Build Date: 10 November 2011  03:34:02PM
     
    Current version of pixman: 0.24.0
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
    Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
    (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug 29 08:19:22 2012
    (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
    (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
    (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
    (EE) PreInit returned 8 for "TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint"
    klauncher(1558) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. 
    kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
    kdmgreet(1544)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "Not connected to D-Bus server" 
    
    kdmgreet(1544)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): No time zone information obtained from ktimezoned
    Two things catch my eye.
    "(EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" No idea what this means.
    and
    "klauncher(1558) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!" DBUS is started and running so I don't know why this is coming up. Perhaps the dbus is not starting soon enough? The timezone initialising fails for the same reason.

    I don't have an .xsession-error log in my home directory. Should I have one?

    I also have these errors in my localmessages log. These date back to Jan 16th so I don't think they are related.
    Code:
    <snip>
    Aug 27 14:10:39 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 22056!
    Aug 27 15:21:17 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1915!
    Aug 28 07:39:42 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 4387!
    Aug 29 06:13:54 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1734!
    Aug 29 06:44:40 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1721!
    Aug 29 08:23:12 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1725!
    Are there any other logs I can look at?

    Any help would be appreciated.
    IBM Thinkpad X60s | Intel L2400 | Intel 945GM | 3GB | openSUSE Tumbleweed
    Dell XPS 13 9360 | openSUSE Leap 42.3

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    I am having that same exact behavior in openSuse 12.3 kith KDE 4.10.1. The strange thing is, I wasn't having this problem with 12.2. I have no clue.

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    Unfortunately I never found a real solution. What I can say is that I was experiencing that problem when I was using a Logitec cordless mouse. After swapping it for a corded USB mouse I never experienced the problem again so it points to the problem being hardware related - well in my case any way.

    I haven't bothered trying to figure out why the cordless mouse started causing the problem except trying another identical model cordless mouse which also gave problems. So for me it's definitely something to do with the cordless mouse of Logitec as the problem occurs with two mice I tried. It's strange that the problem occurred only after I went to oS 12.1. Before that the mouse worked without these issues.

    If you're using a cordless mouse try a corded USB mouse and see if that helps.
    IBM Thinkpad X60s | Intel L2400 | Intel 945GM | 3GB | openSUSE Tumbleweed
    Dell XPS 13 9360 | openSUSE Leap 42.3

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    Hi,
    I am observing the same cumbersome behaviour - but only in gtkpod (2.1.0). All other applications I use are working fine. I tried various versions of gtkpod, but the problem still exists.

    Anyone an idea how to fix this?

    Greetings,
    Knut

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    Same issue in OpenSUSE 12.3 with KDE 4.10. Is it a bug? Should it been reported in buzilla or any other concerned place?

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    Hi,

    I experienced mouse errors in xorg, highlighted in the Xorg.0.log file (useful log file to check and possibly post here) after 12.3 upgrade.

    This is my suggestion:
    1. cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
    2. sudo cp 11-mouse.conf 11-mouse.conf.org (make a copy)
    3. as a super user comment the section "InputClass"... EndSection containing the identifier ""TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint" (add # at the beginning of each line of that section)
    4. save and reboot
    5. If at login time your mouse is not working at all, then you need to revert the changes by going in console mode (Ctrl + Alt + F1), and restoring the original file (cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d && sudo cp 11-mouse.conf.org 11-mouse.conf). Reboot, the problem is not solved and back to square one
    6. If the mouse is now working properly it is all thanks to the default mouse behavior picked up in 10-evdev.conf (in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d) which is loaded before the file 11-mouse.config


    Gualtiero

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_tpx60s View Post
    OK, I did some more testing and the problem definitely doesn't seem related to having desktop effects enabled or not as it manifests itself whether I have desktop effects enabled or not. It just takes longer for the problem to materialise if effects are off. Restarting kwin by using Alt-F2 then typing
    Code:
    kwin --replace&
    restarts kwin and restores some mouse functionality, i.e. I can then click on the various applications on the task panel and bring them into focus but there is still no response when clicking on the window decorations. Killing the session by hitting Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and logging in again doesn't really help either.

    I tried to find clues in the logs but not sure which logs to look in.

    In the kdm.log I have the following:
    Code:
    X.Org X Server 1.10.4
    Release Date: 2011-08-19
    X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
    Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
    Current Operating System: Linux suntp001.site 3.1.10-1.16-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 27 05:21:40 UTC 2012 (d016078) i686
    Kernel command line: root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST9500325AS_5VE9B458-part5 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST9500325AS_5VE9B458-part8 splash=silent quiet vga=0x31a
    Build Date: 10 November 2011  03:34:02PM
     
    Current version of pixman: 0.24.0
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
    Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
    (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug 29 08:19:22 2012
    (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
    (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
    (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
    (EE) PreInit returned 8 for "TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint"
    klauncher(1558) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. 
    kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
    kdmgreet(1544)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "Not connected to D-Bus server" 
    
    kdmgreet(1544)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): No time zone information obtained from ktimezoned
    Two things catch my eye.
    "(EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" No idea what this means.
    and
    "klauncher(1558) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!" DBUS is started and running so I don't know why this is coming up. Perhaps the dbus is not starting soon enough? The timezone initialising fails for the same reason.

    I don't have an .xsession-error log in my home directory. Should I have one?

    I also have these errors in my localmessages log. These date back to Jan 16th so I don't think they are related.
    Code:
    <snip>
    Aug 27 14:10:39 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 22056!
    Aug 27 15:21:17 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1915!
    Aug 28 07:39:42 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 4387!
    Aug 29 06:13:54 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1734!
    Aug 29 06:44:40 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1721!
    Aug 29 08:23:12 suntp001 checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 1725!
    Are there any other logs I can look at?

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    I can confirm there is a mouse control issue on my system as well. It seems to appear randomly and makes it impossible to interact with windows. Running openbox --replace helps to some extent, but when switching back to kwin --replace the problem reoccurs in most cases.

    System:
    OpenSuSE 12.3 x64, KDE 4.11, RadeonHD 7970 with proprietary driver. (I recently switched from geforce [using the nvidia driver] to radeon but the mouse problem remained.)

    Pointing devices:
    Apple Magic Trackpad, aditionally running touchegg for gesture support
    Madcatz R.A.T.5 with button-workaround in the xorg.conf file

    As the mouse control issue existed even before using touchegg or the R.A.T., it cannot be related to those.

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    Default Re: Mouse control issues with KDE Plasma

    EDIT: I think I've found it: Bug 238431 in the KDE bug tracking system (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238431) seems to be what we are experiencing. Says it could be related to gesture support switched on in konqueror....

    AND: it does not occur when I switch to openbox.

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    I have the same issue with my Logitech Wave keyboard and mouse. I have loaded several versions of linux trying to find one that will work for me. Versions of Ubuntu don't load Grub correctly. OpenSuse and Fedoria have this mouse issue, and mint doesn't have a drive controller for my computer. Sure would be nice to find some support somewhere.

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