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  1. #1
    josephkk NNTP User

    Default OS 12.1 kde install problems

    OK.

    A bit complicated:

    HW Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 Mobo w/ 16 GiB ram & FX-6100 processor
    2 DL DVD/cd rw
    Disk 1 128 GiB flash
    Disk 2 128 GiB flash
    Disk 3 1000 GB HD.

    Previous installs before Flashdisks were added, SLED 11 SP 2 and Win7.

    DL 12.1 KDE live, too big to write to cd, SLED K3B took considerable
    bullying to get it to finally write DVD+rw.

    Got 12.1 installed but grub is messed up - arghh. Cannot start 12.1
    without live/install disc. Cannot fix grub from either sled or 12.1,
    Arrgh.

    I would give better but i cannot post from that machine and i have yet to
    setup NFS etc., due to the boot issues.

    any suggestions?

    I would rather not wipe it all, not that there is any data on the machine
    yet; i am nowhere near done installing SW yet.

    ?-)

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    Default Re: OS 12.1 kde install problems

    Quote Originally Posted by josephkk
    OK.

    A bit complicated:

    HW Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 Mobo w/ 16 GiB ram & FX-6100 processor
    2 DL DVD/cd rw
    Disk 1 128 GiB flash
    Disk 2 128 GiB flash
    Disk 3 1000 GB HD.

    Previous installs before Flashdisks were added, SLED 11 SP 2 and Win7.

    DL 12.1 KDE live, too big to write to cd, SLED K3B took considerable
    bullying to get it to finally write DVD+rw.

    Got 12.1 installed but grub is messed up - arghh. Cannot start 12.1
    without live/install disc. Cannot fix grub from either sled or 12.1,
    Arrgh.

    I would give better but i cannot post from that machine and i have yet
    to setup NFS etc., due to the boot issues.

    any suggestions?

    I would rather not wipe it all, not that there is any data on the
    machine yet; i am nowhere near done installing SW yet.

    ?-)
    Hi
    Honestly, I would just re-install...

    What are your plans for the ssd's? SLE doesn't support ext4, so you
    would need to use btrfs (which is supported) if your wanting it on the
    ssds...

    What is your intended partitioning?

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  3. #3
    josephkk NNTP User

    Default Re: OS 12.1 kde install problems

    On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:23:48 GMT, malcolmlewis
    <malcolmlewis@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    Quote Originally Posted by josephkk
    OK.
    >
    >A bit complicated:
    >
    >HW Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 Mobo w/ 16 GiB ram & FX-6100 processor
    >2 DL DVD/cd rw
    >Disk 1 128 GiB flash
    >Disk 2 128 GiB flash
    >Disk 3 1000 GB HD.
    >
    >Previous installs before Flashdisks were added, SLED 11 SP 2 and Win7.
    >
    >DL 12.1 KDE live, too big to write to cd, SLED K3B took considerable
    >bullying to get it to finally write DVD+rw.
    >
    >Got 12.1 installed but grub is messed up - arghh. Cannot start 12.1
    >without live/install disc. Cannot fix grub from either sled or 12.1,
    >Arrgh.
    >
    >I would give better but i cannot post from that machine and i have yet
    >to setup NFS etc., due to the boot issues.
    >
    >any suggestions?
    >
    >I would rather not wipe it all, not that there is any data on the
    >machine yet; i am nowhere near done installing SW yet.
    >
    >?-)
    >
    >Hi
    >Honestly, I would just re-install...


    I am likely to end up doing just that. New box, still working out
    installs. Hardware may change as well, my video card is too new for SLED.
    >
    >What are your plans for the ssd's? SLE doesn't support ext4, so you
    >would need to use btrfs (which is supported) if your wanting it on the
    >ssds...
    >
    >What is your intended partitioning?


    If i can make it happen:
    sda1 (ssd) 128GB NTFS Win7 /windows/c
    sdb1 (ssd) 30GB ext3 SLED 11 /
    sdb2 40GB ext3 SLED 11 /home
    sdb3 40GB ext4 OS 12.1 /
    sdb4 rest swap
    sdc1 (HD) 200GB ext3 OS 12.1 /home
    sdc2 extended
    sdc5 500GB ext3 OS/SLED /nfs/HopperDisk
    Unallocated rest

    And definitely subject to change.

    ?-)

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    Default Re: OS 12.1 kde install problems

    Quote Originally Posted by josephkk
    On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:23:48 GMT, malcolmlewis
    <malcolmlewis@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    Quote Originally Posted by josephkk
    OK.
    >
    >A bit complicated:
    >
    >HW Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 Mobo w/ 16 GiB ram & FX-6100 processor
    >2 DL DVD/cd rw
    >Disk 1 128 GiB flash
    >Disk 2 128 GiB flash
    >Disk 3 1000 GB HD.
    >
    >Previous installs before Flashdisks were added, SLED 11 SP 2 and Win7.
    >
    >DL 12.1 KDE live, too big to write to cd, SLED K3B took considerable
    >bullying to get it to finally write DVD+rw.
    >
    >Got 12.1 installed but grub is messed up - arghh. Cannot start 12.1
    >without live/install disc. Cannot fix grub from either sled or 12.1,
    >Arrgh.
    >
    >I would give better but i cannot post from that machine and i have yet
    >to setup NFS etc., due to the boot issues.
    >
    >any suggestions?
    >
    >I would rather not wipe it all, not that there is any data on the
    >machine yet; i am nowhere near done installing SW yet.
    >
    >?-)
    >
    >Hi
    >Honestly, I would just re-install...


    I am likely to end up doing just that. New box, still working out
    installs. Hardware may change as well, my video card is too new for
    SLED.
    >
    >What are your plans for the ssd's? SLE doesn't support ext4, so you
    >would need to use btrfs (which is supported) if your wanting it on the
    >ssds...
    >
    >What is your intended partitioning?


    If i can make it happen:
    sda1 (ssd) 128GB NTFS Win7 /windows/c
    sdb1 (ssd) 30GB ext3 SLED 11 /
    sdb2 40GB ext3 SLED 11 /home
    sdb3 40GB ext4 OS 12.1 /
    sdb4 rest swap
    sdc1 (HD) 200GB ext3 OS 12.1 /home
    sdc2 extended
    sdc5 500GB ext3 OS/SLED /nfs/HopperDisk
    Unallocated rest

    And definitely subject to change.

    ?-)
    Hi
    I wouldn't run ext3 on the SSD's as you can't add discard (for TRIM), so
    for SLE you would need to use btrfs or enable the (unsupported) ext4 rw
    module.

    Don't forget to align the SSD partitions via partition magic or similar.

    Have a read here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=277082
    I used this for adding my 60GB SSD onto this notebook for awhile,
    I'm back on a rotating drive now and planning on using it in the
    desktop instead.

    I would assume that for windows 7 it creates a boot partition on sda as
    well....

    I would also look at moving some of the common written to partitions
    off on to a rotating drive eg /tmp /var/log.

    You can run /tmp in ram and set it to delete on reboot etc via YaST.
    Put swap onto rotating drives as well.

    Since you have 16GB of ram, look at using zram for swap.... (I wrote a
    blog entry on it).

    I would also look at creating an extended partition on
    sda for two /boot directories for SLE and openSUSE and then which ever
    is installed last to use the extended partition and the other one set to
    use it's respective /boot.

    For example;

    sda1 - win boot
    sda2 - windows
    sda5 - extended (~256MB)
    sda6 - /boot (SLE) (~128MB)
    sda7 - /boot (openSUSE) (~128MB)

    sdb1 - / SLE
    sdb2 - / openSUSE

    sdc1 - swap (fastest part of the rotating disk)
    sdc2 - /tmp (you can use this for both OSes if you clean out on reboot)

    etc.. maybe others can comment as well

    When I rebuild my desktop system I plan to use a 60GB SSD and two
    500GB drives and to have something like;

    sda1 - /boot1
    sda2 - /boot2
    sda3 - / os1 (including /home as I use /data and softlink back as required)
    sda4 - / os2 (including /home as I use /data and softlink back as required)

    sdb and sdc as raid drives

    md0 - RAID0 as swap
    md1 - RAID1 as /data
    md2 - RAID0 as /tmp (shared/cleared on reboot)
    md3 - RAID0 as /var1
    md4 - RAID0 as /var2

    --
    Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
    SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 3.0.34-0.7-default
    up 17 days 10:41, 4 users, load average: 0.20, 0.33, 0.37
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  5. #5
    josephkk NNTP User

    Default Re: OS 12.1 kde install problems

    On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:50:12 GMT, malcolmlewis
    <malcolmlewis@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    Quote Originally Posted by josephkk
    On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:23:48 GMT, malcolmlewis
    ><malcolmlewis@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    >
    >>
    Quote Originally Posted by josephkk
    OK.
    >>
    >>A bit complicated:
    >>
    >>HW Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 Mobo w/ 16 GiB ram & FX-6100 processor
    >>2 DL DVD/cd rw
    >>Disk 1 128 GiB flash
    >>Disk 2 128 GiB flash
    >>Disk 3 1000 GB HD.
    >>
    >>Previous installs before Flashdisks were added, SLED 11 SP 2 and Win7.
    >>
    >>DL 12.1 KDE live, too big to write to cd, SLED K3B took considerable
    >>bullying to get it to finally write DVD+rw.
    >>
    >>Got 12.1 installed but grub is messed up - arghh. Cannot start 12.1
    >>without live/install disc. Cannot fix grub from either sled or 12.1,
    >>Arrgh.
    >>
    >>I would give better but i cannot post from that machine and i have yet
    >>to setup NFS etc., due to the boot issues.
    >>
    >>any suggestions?
    >>
    >>I would rather not wipe it all, not that there is any data on the
    >>machine yet; i am nowhere near done installing SW yet.
    >>
    >>?-)
    >>
    >>Hi
    >>Honestly, I would just re-install...

    >
    >I am likely to end up doing just that. New box, still working out
    >installs. Hardware may change as well, my video card is too new for
    >SLED.
    >>
    >>What are your plans for the ssd's? SLE doesn't support ext4, so you
    >>would need to use btrfs (which is supported) if your wanting it on the
    >>ssds...
    >>
    >>What is your intended partitioning?

    >
    >If i can make it happen:
    >sda1 (ssd) 128GB NTFS Win7 /windows/c
    >sdb1 (ssd) 30GB ext3 SLED 11 /
    >sdb2 40GB ext3 SLED 11 /home
    >sdb3 40GB ext4 OS 12.1 /
    >sdb4 rest swap
    >sdc1 (HD) 200GB ext3 OS 12.1 /home
    >sdc2 extended
    >sdc5 500GB ext3 OS/SLED /nfs/HopperDisk
    >Unallocated rest
    >
    >And definitely subject to change.
    >
    >?-)
    >
    >Hi
    >I wouldn't run ext3 on the SSD's as you can't add discard (for TRIM), so
    >for SLE you would need to use btrfs or enable the (unsupported) ext4 rw
    >module.


    Sorry about btrfs but too much bad experience to try it again any time
    soon. Might consider ext4 though.
    >
    >Don't forget to align the SSD partitions via partition magic or similar.
    >
    >Have a read here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=277082
    >I used this for adding my 60GB SSD onto this notebook for awhile,
    >I'm back on a rotating drive now and planning on using it in the
    >desktop instead.
    >
    >I would assume that for windows 7 it creates a boot partition on sda as
    >well....


    Actually a kind of recovery partition (as well?) unless yo can find the
    black magic to make it behave.
    >
    >I would also look at moving some of the common written to partitions
    >off on to a rotating drive eg /tmp /var/log.


    I might move /var. Part of what i am trying to do is find out just how
    much faster an all SSD machine might be.
    >
    >You can run /tmp in ram and set it to delete on reboot etc via YaST.
    >Put swap onto rotating drives as well.
    >
    >Since you have 16GB of ram, look at using zram for swap.... (I wrote a
    >blog entry on it).


    zram?? I intend on upping ram to 32 GB as well, an ocean unless i run a
    big simulation. I have had those produce over 50 GB of output.
    >
    >I would also look at creating an extended partition on
    >sda for two /boot directories for SLE and openSUSE and then which ever
    >is installed last to use the extended partition and the other one set to
    >use it's respective /boot.
    >
    >For example;
    >
    >sda1 - win boot
    >sda2 - windows
    >sda5 - extended (~256MB)
    >sda6 - /boot (SLE) (~128MB)
    >sda7 - /boot (openSUSE) (~128MB)
    >
    >sdb1 - / SLE
    >sdb2 - / openSUSE
    >
    >sdc1 - swap (fastest part of the rotating disk)
    >sdc2 - /tmp (you can use this for both OSes if you clean out on reboot)
    >
    >etc.. maybe others can comment as well
    >
    >When I rebuild my desktop system I plan to use a 60GB SSD and two
    >500GB drives and to have something like;
    >
    >sda1 - /boot1
    >sda2 - /boot2
    >sda3 - / os1 (including /home as I use /data and softlink back as required)
    >sda4 - / os2 (including /home as I use /data and softlink back as required)
    >
    >sdb and sdc as raid drives
    >
    >md0 - RAID0 as swap
    >md1 - RAID1 as /data
    >md2 - RAID0 as /tmp (shared/cleared on reboot)
    >md3 - RAID0 as /var1
    >md4 - RAID0 as /var2


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