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    Default Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has been released?

    I noticed my LibreOffice (from the openSUSE 12.1 repos) is really far behind the currently released version. LibreOffice is already 4 minor versions into the 3.5 "realm" while openSUSE's still in 3.4.x. Anyone know why this is? And how do I get the latest version?

    The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.5.4

    Also, "The Document Foundation suggests all users to upgrade from previous versions to LibreOffice 3.5.4." and with large files, they claim a 100% performance improvement.

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has been released?

    On 2012-05-31 18:46, 6tr6tr wrote:
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    > I noticed my LibreOffice (from the openSUSE 12.1 repos) is really far
    > behind the currently released version. LibreOffice is already 4 minor
    > versions into the 3.5 "realm" while openSUSE's still in 3.4.x. Anyone
    > know why this is? And how do I get the latest version?


    I see 3.5.3 in the unstable and stable repos.

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has beenreleased?

    On Thu, 31 May 2012 22:33:06 +0530, Carlos E. R.
    <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    > On 2012-05-31 18:46, 6tr6tr wrote:
    >>
    >> I noticed my LibreOffice (from the openSUSE 12.1 repos) is really far
    >> behind the currently released version. LibreOffice is already 4 minor
    >> versions into the 3.5 "realm" while openSUSE's still in 3.4.x. Anyone
    >> know why this is? And how do I get the latest version?

    >
    > I see 3.5.3 in the unstable and stable repos.
    >



    you don't get the latest and (sometimes) greatest software versions by
    installing from the release CD and using the standard repos only. whatever
    is published in the straight openSUSE release gets security updates, but
    not updated to newer versions. for that, you'll have to use additional
    repos, like carlos mentioned. in this case

    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...ffice:/Stable/

    or

    http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...ice:/Unstable/

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has beenreleased?

    On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:46:02 +0000, 6tr6tr wrote:

    > I noticed my LibreOffice (from the openSUSE 12.1 repos) is really far
    > behind the currently released version. LibreOffice is already 4 minor
    > versions into the 3.5 "realm" while openSUSE's still in 3.4.x. Anyone
    > know why this is?


    http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Maintenance_policy

    Short version: The policy with openSUSE is that in general, release
    versions of included packages are not updated; security fixes are
    backported when necessary.

    That's also why you don't see a 3.4 kernel in 12.1, or GNOME 3.4.

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has beenreleased?

    I am baffled by the "100% performance improvement". That would bring the elapsed time or CPU time or what they mean, to nil IMHO which is realy an impressive achievement. It is a pity that it only works for large files. That would bring one to enlarge small files with a lot of nothing to bring the processing time of these files alos to nil.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has beenreleased?

    Thanks to everyone! I had no idea that you do not get even the latest stable versions of important packages. Any idea why this is? I understand not enabling unstable updating by default, but why not stable version upgrading?

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has beenreleased?

    Just to check, the steps I make are:

    1. Add the stable LibreOffice repo for 12.1

    2. In YAST2-Software Management, select the LibreOffice Repo and choose to switch packages to that repo

    Correct?

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has beenreleased?

    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    Thanks to everyone! I had no idea that you do not get even the latest stable versions of important packages. Any idea why this is? I understand not enabling unstable updating by default, but why not stable version upgrading?
    That is openSUSE release policy for a long time allready. The openSUSE release is tested as a complete set. It is closed for newer versions from a certain point in the release cycle on. New versions are combined in a new release and again tested together.

    When you want a "rolling" release, go for Tumbleweed.
    Henk van Velden

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has beenreleased?

    On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:46:02 +0000, 6tr6tr wrote:

    > Thanks to everyone! I had no idea that you do not get even the latest
    > stable versions of important packages. Any idea why this is? I
    > understand not enabling unstable updating by default, but why not stable
    > version upgrading?


    As I said, it's been the policy for some time that version numbers aren't
    incremented in a release of openSUSE. The reason is that the primary
    releases prefer stability across packages, and upgrading from one release
    to the next introduces potential for instability due to package
    interactions.

    Since each package releases on its own schedule and could introduce
    problems, the decision was made years ago to not provide point release
    updates (except for packages like Firefox where their release numbers
    have different meanings now) in order to promote overall system stability.

    If you want more frequent updates, use the tumbleweed releases or apply
    the "unstable" repos. Those repos don't necessarily mean the release is
    "unstable", just that the packages haven't gone through the full
    regression testing necessary to be included as a regular update.

    Security updates, as I said, are backported when necessary. Features
    aren't.

    Jim

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    Default Re: Why is LibreOffice in openSUSE 3.4.5 when 3.5.4 has been released?

    On 2012-05-31 19:46, 6tr6tr wrote:
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    > Thanks to everyone! I had no idea that you do not get even the latest
    > stable versions of important packages. Any idea why this is?


    Intentional policy, proved by ageless practice.

    Any update bring dangers. Other installed packages may break when you
    install something, so for stability you only update what is absolutely
    needed - and no, improvements do not count as absolute necessities.

    Updates only come when you /upgrade/ everything in a distribution upgrade,
    in a matching set.

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