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    Default What happend with Java?

    Hi!
    I use OpenSUSE 11,4 64bits. Untill now Java(Sun/Oracle) has been working.
    Now i read that Oracle Java no longer is distribute trough OpenSUSE-repositories. You must eighter install it manual, or use OpenJava with Icetee-plugin.

    In Norway allmost all banks web-portals use Java-applet as login-client. After Sun(Oracle) Java no longer work, i have big problems login to my bank-accounts.
    I downloaded the 64bits version from java.com but it says to use web-plugin, i need to install 32-bits.

    So how do i solve this?

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    Default Re: What happend with Java?

    On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:56:02 +0000, ronnys wrote:

    > So how do i solve this?


    Download the Java package from Oracle directly. Oracle apparently
    changed their redistribution license, which means that it can't be
    included with the distribution any more (probably unless some conditions
    are met - I don't know all the details).

    Alternatively, you can see if OpenJDK will work for you. It does seem to
    be much more compatible than it used to be, and it is included.

    Jim



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    Default Re: What happend with Java?

    Hi!
    I removed Sun/Oracle-Java and installed OpenJava and IcedTea-plugin.
    In Mozilla Forefox it work, but in Opera Next Beta Bulid 1387(Latest) there is some issues. I think the problems is caused by Opera and not OpenJava.

    Java.com -> Java-verify claims that i use en old Java; Version 4 Update 24, but it works.
    I will test it i little more!

    RS

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:56:02 +0000, ronnys wrote:

    > So how do i solve this?


    Download the Java package from Oracle directly. Oracle apparently
    changed their redistribution license, which means that it can't be
    included with the distribution any more (probably unless some conditions
    are met - I don't know all the details).

    Alternatively, you can see if OpenJDK will work for you. It does seem to
    be much more compatible than it used to be, and it is included.

    Jim



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    Default Re: What happend with Java?

    Quote Originally Posted by hendersj View Post
    On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:56:02 +0000, ronnys wrote:
    Oracle apparently
    changed their redistribution license, which means that it can't be
    included with the distribution any more (probably unless some conditions
    are met - I don't know all the details).

    Alternatively, you can see if OpenJDK will work for you. It does seem to
    be much more compatible than it used to be, and it is included.

    Jim



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    If this indeed the case I really think Oracle lost their mind ... not that they had ever had it to begin with ... but this is simply too much ridiculous _even_ for Oracle.

    Regards.

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    Default Re: What happend with Java?

    Am 02.05.2012 19:06, schrieb keyb user:
    > If this indeed the case I really think Oracle lost their mind ... not
    > that they had ever had it to begin with ... but this is simply too much
    > ridiculous _even_ for Oracle.
    >


    http://jdk-distros.java.net/
    it affects all linux distros since mid of last year.

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    I use Openjdk and the Icedtea-plugin (in Firefox) for all the home - banking stuff with no problems at all ...
    Runs better than Sunjava itself ...

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    Default Re: What happend with Java?

    If anyone wants or needs to run Oracle java then this method works quite well:
    Oracle (Sun) Java for openSUSE and Fedora - Easy Linux tips project
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    Default Re: What happend with Java?

    Quote Originally Posted by oboedad55 View Post
    If anyone wants or needs to run Oracle java then this method works quite well:
    Oracle (Sun) Java for openSUSE and Fedora - Easy Linux tips project
    From that guide:
    for 64-bit you want Linux x64 (file name ends on x64.bin). Not Linux x64 RPM (file name ends on x64-rpm.bin), because this RPM is an unnecessary complication! DO NOT PICK THE RPM.
    Does anyone know why it would be problematic picking the RPM? The install process is certainly much simpler (zypper in <file.rpm>), and it's ostensibly also much quicker to upgrade Java (which is actually fairly important from a security standpoint). So if anyone can shed some light on why we would steer clear of RPMs i'd be interested in hearing it :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantumboredom View Post
    From that guide:
    Does anyone know why it would be problematic picking the RPM? The install process is certainly much simpler (zypper in <file.rpm>), and it's ostensibly also much quicker to upgrade Java (which is actually fairly important from a security standpoint). So if anyone can shed some light on why we would steer clear of RPMs i'd be interested in hearing it :-)
    Two reasons:
    1. It's an adapted version of a how-to I wrote earlier for Debian and Ubuntu, so it was less work for me to keep it for the bin only;
    2. One of the purposes of my how-to is to keep it very clear what's happening "under the bonnet". Total control, YOU do everything, every step is explained, nothing is automated.

    That's all.
    Nederlandstalige tips voor openSUSE:
    http://sites.google.com/site/computertip/opensuse

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    Default Re: What happend with Java?

    Hi,


    Quote Originally Posted by martin_helm View Post
    Am 02.05.2012 19:06, schrieb keyb user:[color=blue]

    community collaboration with the DLJ &mdash; Java.net
    it affects all linux distros since mid of last year.

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    Not that I had even bothered to look because I use Open JDK since OS my 11.3 install
    Anyway I wish they could maintain more support at least for a reason of maybe .. maybe ... some very big legacy SLES/Red Hat enterprise deployments out there.

    Regards.

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