Any body can add novell-client-2.0 to the OpenSuSe12.1 ?

Any body can add novell-client-2.0 to the OpenSuSe12.1 ?

Please, help me…

Serg

On 02/27/2012 08:16 AM, skoltogyan wrote:
>
> Any body can add novell-client-2.0 to the OpenSuSe12.1 ?

as far as i can see neither YaST nor http://software.opensuse.org/ knows
of a package named novell-client-2.0 or novell-client

so, i wonder where you got the application and what is the name of the rpm.

oh, and wherever you got it from (novell??), do they provide
documentation on how to install it??

while waiting for a better answer here, you might try asking over in
http://forums.suse.com/


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I speak about installation of this( Novell: Downloads Novell Client 2.0 SP2 for SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 ) product on opensuse12.1

Serg

Am 27.02.2012 16:06, schrieb skoltogyan:
> I speak about installation of this( ‘Novell: Downloads’
> (http://tinyurl.com/73cewcz) Novell Client 2.0 SP2 for SUSE
> Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 ) product on opensuse12.1
>
I have zero experience with it, but looking into that small iso file you
can download there are several rpm’s in it. I wonder if you simply tried
to install them and what happens (I have not much hope that it works
since SLES is not openSUSE but maybe worth a try).
I doubt that anyone can package this software for openSUSE, it seems not
to be free open source software but proprietary.


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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:06:03 +0000, skoltogyan wrote:

> I speak about installation of this( ‘Novell: Downloads’
> (http://tinyurl.com/73cewcz) Novell Client 2.0 SP2 for SUSE Linux
> Enterprise Desktop 11 ) product on opensuse12.1

As I recall, you need to install a different version of one core library
(you can install a second version manually), but then it should work. I
had it running on 11.4 and while it did take a little extra work to get
it working, it did generally work OK.

Jim

Jim Henderson
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On 02/27/2012 04:06 PM, skoltogyan wrote:
> I speak about installation of this( ‘Novell: Downloads’
> (http://tinyurl.com/73cewcz) Novell Client 2.0 SP2 for SUSE Linux
> Enterprise Desktop 11 ) product on opensuse12.1

then you should install it on SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED) 11…

or if you want one for openSUSE 12.1 you probably need to request that
from Novell…

you do realize, don’t you, that SLED 11 and openSUSE 12.1 not only have
different names and numbers but also they are different?

SLED 11 and (i guess) support for Novell Client is available at suse.com


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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:27:41 +0000, DenverD wrote:

> then you should install it on SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED) 11…
>
> or if you want one for openSUSE 12.1 you probably need to request that
> from Novell…
>
> you do realize, don’t you, that SLED 11 and openSUSE 12.1 not only have
> different names and numbers but also they are different?
>
> SLED 11 and (i guess) support for Novell Client is available at suse.com

It can be made to work on openSUSE 12.1 (and other releases) and is
perfectly fine for someone to ask here how to get it to work.

Jim


Jim Henderson
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On 02/27/2012 08:12 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:

> It can be made to work on openSUSE 12.1 (and other releases) and is
> perfectly fine for someone to ask here how to get it to work.

well of course it is perfectly fine o ask here also about any other
novell or suse.com product…i didn’t did not say otherwise…i simply
tried to point the OP to where i think his best potential support
awaits his question…

but, if you can tell him how to make it work, or a better place to seek
assistance then please do…

unlike you i’ve never seen a novell-client and actually have no idea
what it does, so i can only contribute my best guess on where help
resides, and this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aopensuse.org+“novell+client”

fini


DD
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Have you tried the procedure used for an earlier version
such as:

http://www.novell.com/communities/node/9641/installing-novell-client-
opensuse-112

It seems like whenever a new version of OpenSuSE comes out there are
problems with libbfd which goes back I think to the LTS requirements
of SLES/SLED. OpenSuSE is a bit more of a moving target for the Novell
Client so you have to basically manually add in some backwards
compatibility.

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:46:48 +0000, DenverD wrote:

> but, if you can tell him how to make it work, or a better place to seek
> assistance then please do…

Indeed, that’s why I replied in this thread - I’m familiar with the
client in question and how to get it working on openSUSE.

Jim


Jim Henderson
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Hi, everybody, I try to support this discussion telling you about my experience.
I tried to install the last Novell Client from Novell site. I dowloaded novell-client-2.0-sp2-patch2-sle11-x86_64.iso, mounted and installed using YAST.
I created a symbolic link libbfd-2.19.so, required by novell-xtier-base rpm, from /usr/lib64/libbfd-2.21.1.so.
After installation, I tried to restart novfsd service but it exited with code status=1. Here’s the /var/log/messages highlight:

Mar  2 10:56:29 novfsd[4978]: Starting Novell novfs daemon...
Mar  2 10:56:29 novfsd[4978]: FATAL: Module novfs not found.
Mar  2 10:56:30 novfsd[4978]: FATAL: Module novfs not found.
Mar  2 10:56:30 novfsd[4978]: mount: unknown filesystem type 'novfs'
Mar  2 10:56:30 novfsd[4978]: /etc/init.d/novfsd: line 108: /dev/stderr: No such device or address
Mar  2 10:56:30 novfsd[4978]: ..failed

I think the trouble is that novfs.ko is missing. In fact there isn’t any novfs.ko file in /lib/modules subdirs.

I have a similar problem in a another pc with OpenSuse 11.4 installed.
Before I updated from kernel version 2.6 to 3.2, Novell client works perfectly. I copied novfs.ko from /lib/modules/2.6.37.6-0.11-xen/kernel/fs/novfs/novfs.ko to /lib/modules/3.2.8-1-desktop/kernel/fs/novfs/novfs.ko.

modprobe -l |grep -i nov
kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-nova-t-usb2.ko
kernel/fs/novfs/novfs.ko

If I try:

modprobe -v novfs
insmod /lib/modules/3.2.8-1-desktop/kernel/fs/novfs/novfs.ko 
FATAL: Error inserting novfs (/lib/modules/3.2.8-1-desktop/kernel/fs/novfs/novfs.ko): Invalid module format

Launching dmesg and seeing system log:

[10270.817407] novfs: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout

It’s seems that the kernel objetc wasn’t compiled for 3.2 kernel. If I search for additional info:

modinfo novfs
filename:       /lib/modules/3.2.8-1-desktop/kernel/fs/novfs/novfs.ko
version:        2.0.0-440
description:    Novell NetWare Client for Linux
author:         Novell Inc.
license:        GPL
srcversion:     B24DD0F7AEF683E6FC86AB3
depends:        
vermagic:       2.6.37.6-0.11-xen SMP mod_unload modversions Xen 686

Any ideas? Thank you in advance!

On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:46:02 +0000, anastasi wrote:

> Any ideas? Thank you in advance!

As I think about this a bit more, it seems that the problem may well be
the kernel version.

The Novell Client for Linux is compiled against the kernel version in
SLED 11 (which matches up with the kernel version in openSUSE 11.x).

The kernel version mismatch though, since 12.1 uses the 3.x kernel, means
that the novfs module won’t load because the ABI is different.

As a result, I’m not sure that this can be made to work. I may have some
time to look into it further over the weekend (I have an OES 2 server
here at home so I have an NCP server to connect to if I can get it to
work).

You may have to fall back to ncpfs or using a SAMBA configuration on the
server side.

Jim


Jim Henderson
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Maybe you could try to port the Novell Client that is included in SLED11sp2 (kernel 3.0) to openSUSE12.1 (kernel 3.1)…

I can get as far as the usual ‘novfs module is installed incorrectly’ error.

check.xplatkernelmodule = FAIL

…/ncl_control start

[ncl_control] ncl_control v1.10 started
[ncl_control] mode = <start>

redirecting to systemctl
redirecting to systemctl
Job failed. See system journal and ‘systemctl status’ for details.
[ncl_control] Error: ‘novfsd start’ failed with error code 1

I had to copy over libbfd-2.19.so into /usr/lib and
also libxcb-xlib.so.O to get this far.

Also installed kernel-source, gcc as per really old instructions but
I don’t think that is applicable any longer.

Anywho, that’s as far as I got with it. I notice also that the icons
don’t get installed for some reason.

Probably have to wait for a version that runs on SLES 12 before
it will work.

small thing i noticed after reading this thread. novfs is included in kernel-source in opensuse 11.4, where as it is not included in kernel-source in opensuse 12.2.

so until we get it into the kernel, it’s not going to happen.

if i copy the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.37.6-24/fs/novfs to my 12.2 machine, possibly under /usr/src/linux-3.4.11-2.16/fs,

how can i include into the kernel ?

now i’ve got something to google :slight_smile:

p

I think it’s done. OS and SLES/SLED are on divergent
paths and the two may not cross again. I gave up trying
to make it work, I just use FTP to access my Netware box,
although I also use my Windows VM and a shared directory
using VMware Workstation occasionally.