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    Default Re: 12.1 64 bit won't boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Camalus28 View Post
    Well it froze up as soon as my disc finished burning, so I did a manual restart and it won't boot in to it, again. This is getting really irritating lol. Any more ideas?
    This is probably unrelated. You have another problem. You know, most of the time, they are two different problems, which are unrelated to each other but occure together at the same time. That makes the human brain think that the one should have caused the other. This problem sounds like an input/output error. This can cause the system to freeze. But it might be something else too. At his point, with the little information you have, it can be anything, including the hardware. Checking the filesystem, then running a surface test on the hard disk would be the next step to go.

  2. #22

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    No I mean I realize this freeze thing was something else, I was just saying it won't boot back in again... My only thought (if it's completely stupid just say so) is it might have a reallllly long boot time? Because when I left the download going on windows over night, it rebooted ~3 hours in, which mean's there's a good 5 hours where OpenSUSE would have a chance to boot. Longest i've let it sit was 30 mins, with no results. Anyways... with what you said... how would i check the filesystem and run a surface test? Thanks!

  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camalus28 View Post
    No I mean I realize this freeze thing was something else, I was just saying it won't boot back in again... My only thought (if it's completely stupid just say so) is it might have a reallllly long boot time? Because when I left the download going on windows over night, it rebooted ~3 hours in, which mean's there's a good 5 hours where OpenSUSE would have a chance to boot. Longest i've let it sit was 30 mins, with no results. Anyways... with what you said... how would i check the filesystem and run a surface test? Thanks!
    Well, it's not completely stupid, but it's not that long. systemd, the init process now used in openSUSE by default, has a timeout of 5 minutes. It's a lot when you wait for a computer to boot. When a service fails to start - for whatever reason - systemd will wait 5 minutes, then skip it and continue.

    To check the filesystem, boot from a live CD, become root in a terminal with the command:
    Code:
    su -l
    Find out which are your Linux partitions:
    Code:
    fdisk | grep -i linux
    And for each /dev/sda? (or /dev/sdb?, etc ) listed in the first column, run this command:

    Code:
    fsck /dev/sda?
    while replacing "?" with the number of the partition. You'll probably have 2 partitions. But you might also have only one or more.

    To run a surface test, run this command (I think it is on the live CD):

    Code:
    /usr/bin/palimpsest
    Select yourd hard disk, click on "SMART Data", then on "Run Self-test".

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    Default Re: 12.1 64 bit won't boot

    On 2012-02-07 03:06, please try again wrote:
    > This is probably unrelated. You have another problem. You know, most
    > of the time, they are two different problems, which are unrelated to
    > each other but occure together at the same time.


    Notice that Windows also restarted in the middle of a download...

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  5. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2012-02-07 03:06, please try again wrote:
    > This is probably unrelated. You have another problem. You know, most
    > of the time, they are two different problems, which are unrelated to
    > each other but occure together at the same time.


    Notice that Windows also restarted in the middle of a download...

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    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.
    (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar)
    It was because of an automatic update.

    And, please_try_again:

    "fdisk | grep -i linux" didn't work, ran "fdisk -l" instead
    Code:
    Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0002e850
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1            2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda2          206848  1703519345   851656249    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda3   *  1703520256  1953523711   125001728    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
    /dev/sda5      1703522304  1707741183     2109440   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sda6      1707743232  1749688319    20972544   83  Linux
    /dev/sda7      1749690368  1953503231   101906432   83  Linux
    fsck /dev/sda5
    Code:
    fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
    fsck /dev/sda6
    Code:
    fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
    e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
    /dev/sda6: recovering journal
    /dev/sda6: clean, 128399/1313280 files, 1481192/5242880 blocks
    fsck /dev/sda7
    Code:
    fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
    e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
    /dev/sda7: recovering journal
    Clearing orphaned inode 2621620 (uid=1000, gid=100, mode=0100644, size=168776)
    /dev/sda7: clean, 1403/6373376 files, 1200880/25476608 blocks
    /usr/bin/palimpsest
    Code:
    -bash: /usr/bin/palimpsest: No such file or directory

  6. #26

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    And just in case /dev/sda3 is linux:

    fsck /dev/sda3
    Code:
    fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
    e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
    fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda3
    Could this be a zero-length partition?

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    Default Re: 12.1 64 bit won't boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Camalus28 View Post
    And just in case /dev/sda3 is linux:

    fsck /dev/sda3
    Code:
    fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
    e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
    fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda3
    Could this be a zero-length partition?
    And it could be, since it's the extended partition containing the logic ones. It cannot be checked, like the message says.
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  8. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camalus28 View Post
    "fdisk | grep -i linux" didn't work, ran "fdisk -l" instead
    Ooops. I meant "fdisk -l | grep -i linux". Sorry. The idea was to display only the linux partitions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camalus28 View Post
    /usr/bin/palimpsest
    Code:
    -bash: /usr/bin/palimpsest: No such file or directory
    Humm ... It is on the Gnome Live CD. I just booted it in a virtual machine to doublecheck.

  9. #29

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    Should I download the GNOME one and run it, then? And still no ideas as to what to do?

  10. #30

    Default Re: 12.1 64 bit won't boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Camalus28 View Post
    Should I download the GNOME one and run it, then? And still no ideas as to what to do?
    This program is on many live CDs. It is also run automatically in Fedora's setup. It is on PartedMagic live CD as well. I wonder why it is missing on the KDE live CD? Is that the one you booted?

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