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    Default Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    Installed openSUSE 12.1 AMD64 KDE, on a new laptop with 4GB of ram.

    Noticed that Firefox takes about 30 seconds to startup (from clicking Firefox icon to able to see/use Firefox).
    Once startup, Firefox performs normally.


    Have tried re-installing Firefox and deleting the old profile but the result is the same.


    Is this normal in openSUSE?

    Any way to speed up Firefox startup process?

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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    On 01/22/2012 09:16 AM, michalng wrote:
    > Is this normal in openSUSE?


    i think it is normal for firefox...(or, where have you run FF9.0 where
    it was noticeably faster?)

    > Any way to speed up Firefox startup process?


    remove all addons would probably help..

    overall Firefox is the largest, most resource hungry _and_ capable of
    the browsers..

    if you want 'fast' install Opera or Chrome/Chromium..
    if you want faster install Opera in XFCE or LXDE (not Gnome or KDE)

    and, i'd guess the 32 bit version is as fast, or measurably faster than
    the 64..

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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    Not normal. My start-up time in milliseconds.

    version appBuildID main createTopLevelWindow

    10.0 20120118081945 62 822

    Have you tried the standard Firefox troubleshooting methods?

    Basic Troubleshooting | Troubleshooting | Firefox Help



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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    On 01/22/2012 05:46 PM, rafter22 wrote:
    > Not normal. My start-up time in milliseconds.


    ok. tell us your hardware cpu, disk type speed etc etc etc...never mind,
    because so, what do we know about the OP's hardware...and, is s/he
    streaming a movie while also downloading a torrent and how many addons
    are involved, and is the start up page set to some far away, slow
    loading giant photo and and and . . .

    on my machine (listed in my sig), with my addons, and my startup page 30
    seconds is about normal for the FIRST launch after boot...

    now, if i shut down right now and wait three to five seconds (until it
    is shut down completely) and then launch FF again it comes up in about
    less than 5 seconds....

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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:16:02 +0000, michalng wrote:

    > Noticed that Firefox takes about 30 seconds to startup (from clicking
    > Firefox icon to able to see/use Firefox).
    > Once startup, Firefox performs normally.


    How many addons do you have? The more addons you have, the longer it
    takes FF to start.

    Jim



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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    Thanks for the replies, I'll try to answer all your query/suggestion below :

    Firefox : Firefox for openSUSE 12.1 Version 9.0.1.
    Hardware : Thinkpad T410, CPU-I5, 4GB RAM, Nvidia Graphics Card

    Reinstall Firefox in openSUSE.
    Deleted all addons and the ~/.mozilla folder and restart Firefox a few times.
    Restart computer with no major application running, no chat/email/torrent/games/office etc.
    Result : Same slow starting up, approx 26 to 30 seconds.


    Dual boot Debian on same laptop, with addons, the startup of Firefox (Iceweasel) is around 2 to 3 seconds.

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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    On 01/23/2012 03:06 AM, michalng wrote:
    > Dual boot Debian on same laptop, with addons, the startup of Firefox
    > (Iceweasel) is around 2 to 3 seconds.


    please do this:

    -click the the home icon to show your startup page

    -close all other firefox tabs

    -open a terminal, into it type
    Code:
    free
    firefox
    -enter 'free' and then enter 'firefox' and when pressing the Enter
    button the second time, note the exact number of seconds until firefox
    appears, and report that back to this thread..

    -leave the terminal open

    -go to http://forums.opensuse.org

    -using firefox's close button, shut down firefox

    -from the terminal window, copy/paste both the input and full output
    back to this thread using the instructions here: http://goo.gl/i3wnr

    mine looks like:
    Code:
    denverd@linux-os114:~> free
    total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:       1005588     880416     125172          0      18624     453480
    -/+ buffers/cache:     408312     597276
    Swap:      2097096      16280    2080816
    denverd@linux-os114:~> firefox
    *** nss-shared-helper: Shared database disabled (set NSS_USE_SHARED_DB
    to enable).
    NOTE: child process received `Goodbye', closing down
    denverd@linux-os114:~>
    and, one more question: if you go into the firefox menu Edit >
    Preferences > General and in the "Startup" section at the top of the
    preferences dialog you spin the selector from "Show my home page" or
    "Show my windows and tabs from last time" and set instead "Show a blank
    page" how does that affect your startup seconds?

    note: i can't promise any of this will lead to a quicker firefox startup
    (how does Iceweasel run on openSUSE?) and, perhaps it best to follow the
    other poster's advice to go here: http://tinyurl.com/7ub6zgs and then
    let us know if you made any speed up progress, or not..

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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    Hi DenverD,

    following is the results of steps as advised:

    Clicked the the home icon to show startup page (which happens to be a blank page)
    Firefox startup with only the blank page (no other tabs)
    - time taken to startup Firefox is about 25 to 30 seconds seconds (tried a few times)


    Opened a terminal, into it type as requested and visited this forum.
    Using firefox's close button, shut down firefox, output of terminal as below:

    Code:
    rainwalk@rainwalk:~> free
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:       3913544    1382408    2531136          0      43732     709632
    -/+ buffers/cache:     629044    3284500
    Swap:      3905532          0    3905532
    rainwalk@rainwalk:~> firefox
    *** nss-shared-helper: Shared database disabled (set NSS_USE_SHARED_DB to enable).
    Error: found duplicate rule name GoogleMaps in file /home/rainwalk/.mozilla/firefox/ypjzt9pf.default/extensions/https-everywhere@eff.org/chro/GoogleMaps.xml~HEAD
    rainwalk@rainwalk:~>


    Noticed one more thing, this Firefox starting slow issue is also noticed on an installation of
    - openSUSE KDE 32bit on a netbook
    - openSUSE KDE 64bit on another Intel I7 laptop


    Is this possible that this happens only on openSUSE KDE desktops?
    Anyone using KDE desktop and can help to confirm/verify?

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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    On 2012-01-22 18:09, DenverD wrote:
    > now, if i shut down right now and wait three to five seconds (until it is
    > shut down completely) and then launch FF again it comes up in about less
    > than 5 seconds....


    Mine in minutes. >:-)

    Not surprising, it includes dozens of windows with dozens of tabs on each one.

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    Default Re: Curious - Firefox startup slowly, normal?

    On 01/24/2012 02:36 AM, michalng wrote:
    > Is this possible that this happens only on openSUSE KDE desktops?
    > Anyone using KDE desktop and can help to confirm/verify?


    i guess you have already noted that i responded to your initial post
    that an about 30 second opening was 'normal'...so, i've used nothing but
    KDE (except for very brief looks at others) since about SUSE 9.3 or so,
    and therefore i'd gotten used to FF's slow lumbering way of unfolding
    like it is stuck in heavy syrup.....and therefore i plan for it...

    by that i mean, i click to start FF and then do something else--i do NOT
    click and sit waiting and watching FireSloth...i mean, i don't usually
    start FF more than once a day (when i boot) and that goes like this:
    -click to open FF
    -click to open Thunderbird-
    -click to open YaST
    -walk away from the machine (to start the coffee, or whatever)
    -come back to machine and see the main three ready to roll--and care
    less how long it took them to unfold and set up shop--i mean, to me it
    seems like instant startup *because* i do not sit and watch it..

    maybe someday i will experiment with having the system boot up and
    auto-start those three (and more) so i can just press the power button
    and walk away..

    to me, there are more things in life worth worrying about than to piddle
    with the difference between a few seconds opening times when i do not
    _have_ to sit and wait.

    ymmv, and i acknowledge that other folks have other needs that, though
    different, are as valid to them as mine are to me....if i needed instant
    startup of system/apps i would not have purchased this sufficient, but
    underpowered Atom.

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