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    I am running 3 days ago installed openSuse 12.1 in a computer with Intel chipset and SSD. KDE crashes several times a day. All freezes and to go on, I have to log out and log in. One quit easy way to freeze KDE is to open Dolphin in 3 panels, then select all files in the third panel and try to drag them to the first. If there is behind Dolphin another window, it pops up and Dolphin disappears and taskbar etc, too. I may be able to close other applications with ctrl-q but that is not always possible. If there are unsaved documents, changes are lost.

    I do not know if that has anything to do with Firefox, but yesterday Firefox crached always when I tried to open HS.fi. It was loading, I think, some adds from a German server. All other site worked.

    I am wondering why Dolphin is still in use as a default, it seems oldfashioned and is not very handy, aren't there any better. I used command line interpreters in the 80's, now it must be GUI.

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    On 01/20/2012 05:06 PM, psammalisto wrote:
    > now it must be GUI.


    no, you can use Midnight Commander in the CLI to move files without any
    problems from Dolphin..

    but, you system sound seriously mess up! very broken!! i wonder if this
    is the same system you had trouble with last october, runnign 11.4..

    did you ever get a stable, dependable openSUSE 11.4 fully updated and
    smooth??

    and, how did you get from 11.4 to 12.1 ?? (i ask because it sure sounds
    like you did not successfully make the transition)

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    That site works OK for me in Firefox

    I've never tried what you are doing in Dolphin, it should work I agree. But at the same time it also sounds like a action that would be problematic.
    You can easily make Konqueror the file manager. Did you try using Konqueror?

    You should disable desktop effects, to reliably provide info on application behaviour.

    Perhaps too. Tell us about your hardware. One way to do that easily is, open a terminal and post the result of:
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    /sbin/lspci -nnk
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    Yes, this is the very same computer. Actually I never could get a stable v. 11.4 system, so I gave up and tried next distro. Most of them did not install at all. The best was Scientific Linux 6.1, but that also had a bad feature. After some 10 minutes, if I did not do anything, it went to sleep and never woke up again. At least the terminal was showing no signal all the time and I could not do anything. I disabled all screen and power savers without any effect.

    CentoOS people told that the problems with installing 6.0 comes, because 6.0 do not have drivers for those Intel chips, 6.1 will have but it was not yet released by then and they told that Scientific Linux 6.1 has the drivers.

    Suse 12.1 was easy to install and works fine in spite of the problems with KDE. Several times UI freezes or become very slow. The only help is to log off and on. One problem is also, that 12.1 uses general display drivers and that is why I cannot use 1600x1200 resolution. I tried to install Intel drivers to Scientific Linux, but after installation of some 6 missing packages I gave up. Gnome partition manager is this far the only Linux, which can show 1600x1200.

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    I have learned that drag and drop from Windows and it is hard to give up. I used Konqueror as a file manager in Suse version 9 or so, that was default, I think, but later some how it was replaced, do not understand why. What is the command to make Konqueror to work as a file manager?
    Intel is not very unknown company and it's chip sets are used in several laptops and also in some other main boards in addition to mine. Actually, my main board is made by Intel. I have lspci file ready, but could not find how to attach it, cannot find button "Manage Attachements".

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    Nice, thank you. There seems still to be something in Suse I do not know. Actually I know quite little about Linux, because my main job is to make Windows programs.

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    my main job is to make Windows programs
    Well that's fine. Good to know you have fine employment.
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    Right, I fully agree.

    It is a lot easier and faster to make programs to Windows, especially GUIs, than e.g. to Linux. I made programs in the 80's some 10+ years mainly to VMS and Unix (I have made programs using the real TTY), after that 15 years to Windows and now last 2 years mainly to Anroid, AVR, ARM and Linux, so I have some perspective. Tools and farmeworks in Windows are a lot better.

    There is a huge intellectual resource behind Linux. Pitty that Linux world cannot focuse the resources to one distro. As long as Linux world is as disperced as it is now, Linux cannot compete with Windows or Apple, not at least in those markets where the demand is big. Linux will stay in niche markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psammalisto View Post
    One quit easy way to freeze KDE is to open Dolphin in 3 panels, then select all files in the third panel and try to drag them to the first. If there is behind Dolphin another window, it pops up and Dolphin disappears and taskbar etc, too. I may be able to close other applications with ctrl-q but that is not always possible. If there are unsaved documents, changes are lost.
    If you want bugs to get fixed you have to report them at bugs.kde.org.

    Quote Originally Posted by psammalisto View Post
    I am wondering why Dolphin is still in use as a default, it seems oldfashioned and is not very handy, aren't there any better. I used command line interpreters in the 80's, now it must be GUI.
    Because dolphin is under active development (as you can see quite clearly when using KDE 4.8) while konqueror is not. This implies that dolphin seems to be more popular than konqueror rather than old-fashioned and not handy. Otherwise there would be tons of people working on konqueror and nobody on the allegedly broken dolphin.

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