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    Default Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    hi

    The "fallback" procedure only brings back 20% of the 90% productivity I've lost when I stupidly upgraded OS 11.4 to 12.1, getting that Gnome 3 instead of the fine working Gnome 2.X. They are lots of tricks spread around the web to try to get back a real WORKstation, but none is satisfactory.

    I don't want KDE (I have dual boot with XP so have already the original), I just want my Gnome 2.X back.

    Even Linus Torvalds says all the bad he thinks of Gnome 3
    Linus Torvalds dubs GNOME 3 'unholy mess' • The Register

    So is there any decent way to totally get that hipe-stuff away, and install a fine running Gnome 2.X instead on OpenSuse 12.1 ?

    Even microsoft offered users to get back to XP when he launched his catastrophic Vista, so for once that MS shows a good example, why our developpers can't follow it?

    thanks

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    On 2012-01-10 15:36, doggy4nix wrote:

    > Even Linus Torvalds says all the bad he thinks of Gnome 3
    > 'Linus Torvalds dubs GNOME 3 'unholy mess' • The Register'
    > (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08...s_gnome_three/)


    Interesting!


    > So is there any decent way to totally get that hipe-stuff away, and
    > install a fine running Gnome 2.X instead on OpenSuse 12.1 ?


    Not that I know. I hope somebody successfully forks gnome 3 soon.

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:53:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > On 2012-01-10 15:36, doggy4nix wrote:
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    >> Even Linus Torvalds says all the bad he thinks of Gnome 3 'Linus
    >> Torvalds dubs GNOME 3 'unholy mess' • The Register'
    >> (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08...s_gnome_three/)

    >
    > Interesting!


    Not really. While Linus is the granddaddy of Linux, he's entitled to an
    opinion about the DEs just like anyone else, and with him (as with anyone
    else) it's a matter of personal preference.

    >> So is there any decent way to totally get that hipe-stuff away, and
    >> install a fine running Gnome 2.X instead on OpenSuse 12.1 ?

    >
    > Not that I know. I hope somebody successfully forks gnome 3 soon.


    The best one can do that I'm aware of is to force fallback mode.

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    AFAIK it is possible to replace GNOME3 with G2 using 11.4 gnome repository (somebody managed to do it).
    But you will also lose all subsequent gnome updates, as GTK2 based apps are no longer developed.
    And sooner or later you may get into trouble maintaining such unsupported system.

    It would be better idea to switch to xfce (just like I did) and use all gnome3 apps with XFCE desktop.

    Still, I'm planning to skip 12.1 and upgrade 11.4 to 12.2. Because 12.1 doesn't work well for me.
    Desktop: Intel Q8300@3,3Ghz, 4GB RAM, Foxconn P35A, Sapphire HD5670, OpenSUSE x64
    Server: Via C3@1.4Ghz, 768MB RAM, 8GB Microdrive + OpenSuSE x86
    and other boxes running Windoze

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    On 2012-01-10 21:36, sobrus wrote:
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    > AFAIK it is possible to replace GNOME3 with G2 using 11.4 gnome
    > repository (somebody managed to do it).


    I prefer to stay with 11.4

    > But you will also lose all subsequent gnome updates, as GTK2 based apps
    > are no longer developed.


    Yep.

    > Still, I'm planning to skip 12.1 and upgrade 11.4 to 12.2. Because 12.1
    > doesn't work well for me.


    Me too.

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    On 2012-01-10 19:52, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:53:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:



    >> Interesting!

    >
    > Not really. While Linus is the granddaddy of Linux, he's entitled to an
    > opinion about the DEs just like anyone else, and with him (as with anyone
    > else) it's a matter of personal preference.


    Nevertheless, his opinion carries as much weight as hundreds of our single
    opinions. You can say otherwise if you happen to not agree with him on
    something, but it is so >:-)

    >> Not that I know. I hope somebody successfully forks gnome 3 soon.

    >
    > The best one can do that I'm aware of is to force fallback mode.


    It is not as powerful. There are missing features and bugs, and bugzillas
    are ignored.

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    This my be heresy in this forum, but anyway my principle is that people should use what suits them: Some people use Mint because it provides both shell extensions to G3 to make it feel like G2, and also Mate, a fork of G2. Not a G user so no first hand experience.

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    On 2012-01-11 02:56, ken yap wrote:
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    > This my be heresy in this forum, but anyway my principle is that people
    > should use what suits them: Some people use Mint because it provides
    > both shell extensions to G3 to make it feel like G2, and also Mate, a
    > fork of G2. Not a G user so no first hand experience.


    I am a happy SuSE user, and gnome user, since 1978. Having to abandon Gnome
    or openSUSE is defeat.

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    I am a happy SuSE user, and gnome user, since 1978. Having to abandon Gnome
    or openSUSE is defeat.
    I'm a non-G user except for a netbook with UNR, which fortunately is G2, so I've given up on G even before starting.

    As for openSUSE, I'm equally successful with it as any of the other distros I use. That includes some lower end desktops like Openbox.

    So I guess it's G that I'm giving up on.

    I suppose G had to go one better than the K3 to K4 pangs.

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    Default Re: Gnome 3 : how to get back to 2.X

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:43:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

    > Nevertheless, his opinion carries as much weight as hundreds of our
    > single opinions. You can say otherwise if you happen to not agree with
    > him on something, but it is so >:-)


    Only to those who grant him that kind of weight on things not related to
    the Linux kernel. I have a lot of respect for Linus, but his preferences
    of desktop have no bearing on mine, because he and I work in different
    ways.

    >>> Not that I know. I hope somebody successfully forks gnome 3 soon.

    >>
    >> The best one can do that I'm aware of is to force fallback mode.

    >
    > It is not as powerful. There are missing features and bugs, and
    > bugzillas are ignored.


    I didn't say it was as powerful (however, I also did not say it was,
    either). I said that it's the best one can do at this stage.

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