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    Default KDE 4 (OpenSuse 12.1) Lost Task Manager (And "Ghost" Icons)

    Here's a good one. I was putting together some photos for Facebook and I opened Dolphin. I clicked on several images, one after another, rapidly. Wildcard: I use Eye Of Gnome, instead of Gwenview, even though I use the KDE 4 desktop.

    Whenever I do this, by the way, I usually get two icons per "click:" one is for the image, the other is a "dummy" icon that just says "Eye of Gnome" during program startup. It usually goes away after the usual notification period (30 seconds on my setup).

    This time, though, the task manager section was filled with icons; when I closed all of the actual Eye of Gnome image windows, the "Eye of Gnome" startup icons continued to stay in the taskbar. On a whim, I right-clicked on one of them and selected Close. The task manager disappeared and I had the World's Largest Clock spanning most of the panel.

    I figured out how to get the task manager back (I even figured that my "close" probably killed the Task Manager, not the spurious "Eye of Gnome" startup icon). I also killed the clock and re-installed the widget in the panel; it's OK now. But this was a bit disconcerting.

    Also, in related news and by the way, when I close applications, the last one closed will leave an icon in the task manager on that particular desktop. It's a "dead" icon; clicking on it and selecting close has no effect. If I start another application, that ghost icon will disappear and be replaced by the new application.

    I don't know where to file a bug report. With KDE? Or is this maybe the effect of using Gnome and KDE libraries mixed together?

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    Question Re: KDE 4 (OpenSuse 12.1) Lost Task Manager (And "Ghost" Icons)

    Quote Originally Posted by smpoole7 View Post
    Here's a good one. I was putting together some photos for Facebook and I opened Dolphin. I clicked on several images, one after another, rapidly. Wildcard: I use Eye Of Gnome, instead of Gwenview, even though I use the KDE 4 desktop. Whenever I do this, by the way, I usually get two icons per "click:" one is for the image, the other is a "dummy" icon that just says "Eye of Gnome" during program startup. It usually goes away after the usual notification period (30 seconds on my setup). This time, though, the task manager section was filled with icons; when I closed all of the actual Eye of Gnome image windows, the "Eye of Gnome" startup icons continued to stay in the taskbar. On a whim, I right-clicked on one of them and selected Close. The task manager disappeared and I had the World's Largest Clock spanning most of the panel. I figured out how to get the task manager back (I even figured that my "close" probably killed the Task Manager, not the spurious "Eye of Gnome" startup icon). I also killed the clock and re-installed the widget in the panel; it's OK now. But this was a bit disconcerting. Also, in related news and by the way, when I close applications, the last one closed will leave an icon in the task manager on that particular desktop. It's a "dead" icon; clicking on it and selecting close has no effect. If I start another application, that ghost icon will disappear and be replaced by the new application. I don't know where to file a bug report. With KDE? Or is this maybe the effect of using Gnome and KDE libraries mixed together?
    So I have installed KDE 4.7.2 into openSUSE 11.4 and its default in openSUSE 12.1, but I have not seen the behavior. I do have the gnome desktop installed in order to use other gnome apps, though not the one you use. So I am not sure if it might be something a update might fix, so humor me. Why not take the following steps and restart openSUSE and see if this helps? I am suggesting an update of all apps, using the normal Packman repository and the default ones that come with openSUSE.
    Code:
    1. YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Management 2. Options / Allow Vendor Change (check) 3. Package / All Packages / Update If Newer Version Available
    If there are any conflicts and there is an option to Not install the conflicting program, then do that. Otherwise here is my general advise is to avoid package problems, the most important thing to do is to: **NEVER** ignore a dependency, even if YaST/zypper updater gives you such an option! In general, never switch to an >inferior< architecture and the solution is most often to just switch Vendor to the >Packman< repository. So changing the vendor is OK, but >ignoring< dependencies is never a very good idea! Thank You,
    My Blog: https://forums.opensuse.org/blogs/jdmcdaniel3/

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    Question Re: KDE 4 (OpenSuse 12.1) Lost Task Manager (And "Ghost" Icons)

    Here's a good one. I was putting together some photos for Facebook and I opened Dolphin. I clicked on several images, one after another, rapidly. Wildcard: I use Eye Of Gnome, instead of Gwenview, even though I use the KDE 4 desktop.

    Whenever I do this, by the way, I usually get two icons per "click:" one is for the image, the other is a "dummy" icon that just says "Eye of Gnome" during program startup. It usually goes away after the usual notification period (30 seconds on my setup).

    This time, though, the task manager section was filled with icons; when I closed all of the actual Eye of Gnome image windows, the "Eye of Gnome" startup icons continued to stay in the taskbar. On a whim, I right-clicked on one of them and selected Close. The task manager disappeared and I had the World's Largest Clock spanning most of the panel.

    I figured out how to get the task manager back (I even figured that my "close" probably killed the Task Manager, not the spurious "Eye of Gnome" startup icon). I also killed the clock and re-installed the widget in the panel; it's OK now. But this was a bit disconcerting.

    Also, in related news and by the way, when I close applications, the last one closed will leave an icon in the task manager on that particular desktop. It's a "dead" icon; clicking on it and selecting close has no effect. If I start another application, that ghost icon will disappear and be replaced by the new application.

    I don't know where to file a bug report. With KDE? Or is this maybe the effect of using Gnome and KDE libraries mixed together?
    So I have installed KDE 4.7.2 into openSUSE 11.4 and its default in openSUSE 12.1, but I have not seen the behavior. I do have the gnome desktop installed in order to use other gnome apps, though not the one you use. So I am not sure if it might be something a update might fix, so humor me. Why not take the following steps and restart openSUSE and see if this helps? I am suggesting an update of all apps, using the normal Packman repository and the default ones that come with openSUSE.

    Code:
    1. YaST (Enter Root Password) / Software / Software Management
    2. Options / Allow Vendor Change (check)
    3. Package / All Packages / Update If Newer Version Available
    If there are any conflicts and there is an option to Not install the conflicting program, then do that. Otherwise here is my general advise is to avoid package problems, the most important thing to do is to: **NEVER** ignore a dependency, even if YaST/zypper updater gives you such an option! In general, never switch to an >inferior< architecture and the solution is most often to just switch Vendor to the >Packman< repository. So changing the vendor is OK, but >ignoring< dependencies is never a very good idea!

    Thank You,
    My Blog: https://forums.opensuse.org/blogs/jdmcdaniel3/

    Software efficiency halves every 18 months, thus compensating for Moore's Law

    Its James again from Austin, Texas

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