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    Default Nautilus 3.2.1 not Perceiving ntfs Partitions

    I installed oSUSE 12.1 Gnome 64 from the DVD Install disk and everything works EXCEPT, Nautilus 3.2.1 doesn't recognize ntfs partitions and applications like LibreOffice and Gedit don't either.

    So I installed Dolphin, which doesn't have that problem but I still can't save files to ntfs partitions using Gnome's applications.

    Is this a configuration problem or do I have to install the KDE version of oSUSE?

    (When I ran oSuse v. 12.1 Gnome 64 bit from the Live CD, Nautilus found the ntfs partitions OK, so the current defect is hard to understand).

    TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by d_hinds View Post
    I installed oSUSE 12.1 Gnome 64 from the DVD Install disk and everything works EXCEPT, Nautilus 3.2.1 doesn't recognize ntfs partitions and applications like LibreOffice and Gedit don't either.

    So I installed Dolphin, which doesn't have that problem but I still can't save files to ntfs partitions using Gnome's applications.

    Is this a configuration problem or do I have to install the KDE version of oSUSE?

    (When I ran oSuse v. 12.1 Gnome 64 bit from the Live CD, Nautilus found the ntfs partitions OK, so the current defect is hard to understand).

    TIA
    So, its not clear to me if these are partitions that are mounted using your fstab file or just how they are being mounted. For external USB hard drive, they get auto-mounted when plugged in. Any partition present when you install openSUSE will have likely been added to your fstab file. One issue is the default settings in your fstab file only allows a root user to write to them, but they can be "seen", just not written to by other applications unless you are root. I suggest you change your settings in the fstab file, but only for NTFS partitions. Here is a typical setting in my fstab file for a NTFS partition.

    Code:
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Hitachi_HDS723020BLA642_MN1221F305BDDD-part1     /Windows             ntfs-3g    defaults                           0 0
    Your entry(s) will not be exactly like mine, but notice the word defaults, which I placed in bold for it to show up beween ntfs-3g and the 0 0. I am suggesting you change everything between these two values and make it say only defaults. In GNOME you can enter:

    Code:
    Alt-F2: gnomesu gedit /etc/fstab
    To edit your file being careful to only make the change I show above for only NTFS partitions, save the changes, close the file and then reboot to see if you can now use Nautilus. You can post a copy of your fstab file from gedit if you wish for use to see.

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    Default Re: Nautilus 3.2.1 not Perceiving ntfs Partitions

    I'm pretty confident that Nautilus is not the problem.

    Open a terminal and post the result of

    Code:
    cat /etc/fstab
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    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    I'm pretty confident that Nautilus is not the problem.

    Open a terminal and post the result of

    Code:
    cat /etc/fstab
    fstab-info.mpeg - YouTube
    cat /etc/fstab
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part8 swap swap defaults 0 0
    UUID=33354c82-ca82-4a78-94d6-f6c8abfaa44e / btrfs defaults 1 1
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part1 /boot ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 2
    UUID=f787327e-e137-4c67-9b8f-6eff9dc6d88f /home btrfs defaults 1 2
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part3 /windows/C ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part5 /windows/D ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part6 /windows/E ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part5 /windows/F ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part6 /windows/G ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part7 /windows/H ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
    debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
    usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
    devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by d_hinds View Post
    cat /etc/fstab
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part8 swap swap defaults 0 0
    UUID=33354c82-ca82-4a78-94d6-f6c8abfaa44e / btrfs defaults 1 1
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part1 /boot ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 2
    UUID=f787327e-e137-4c67-9b8f-6eff9dc6d88f /home btrfs defaults 1 2
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part3 /windows/C ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part5 /windows/D ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part6 /windows/E ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part5 /windows/F ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part6 /windows/G ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part7 /windows/H ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
    debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
    usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
    devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
    Why not modify your fstab file as I have suggested to look like this:

    Code:
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part8 swap swap defaults 0 0
    UUID=33354c82-ca82-4a78-94d6-f6c8abfaa44e / btrfs defaults 1 1
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part1 /boot ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 2
    UUID=f787327e-e137-4c67-9b8f-6eff9dc6d88f /home btrfs defaults 1 2
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part3 /windows/C ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part5 /windows/D ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part6 /windows/E ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part5 /windows/F ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part6 /windows/G ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part7 /windows/H ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
    debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
    usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
    devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
    Using the following command to edit the file:

    Code:
    Alt-F2: gnomesu gedit /etc/fstab
    Save and close the file and reboot and see just what you get.

    Thank You,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmcdaniel3 View Post
    Why not modify your fstab file as I have suggested to look like this:

    Code:
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part8 swap swap defaults 0 0
    UUID=33354c82-ca82-4a78-94d6-f6c8abfaa44e / btrfs defaults 1 1
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part1 /boot ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 2
    UUID=f787327e-e137-4c67-9b8f-6eff9dc6d88f /home btrfs defaults 1 2
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part3 /windows/C ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part5 /windows/D ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part6 /windows/E ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part5 /windows/F ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part6 /windows/G ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part7 /windows/H ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
    debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
    usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
    devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
    Using the following command to edit the file:

    Code:
    Alt-F2: gnomesu gedit /etc/fstab
    Save and close the file and reboot and see just what you get.

    Thank You,
    I want to thank jdmcdaniel and caf for their suggestions. I would feel more comfortable about modifying the fstab file if I knew more about what that file does, how it works, what my current fstab file shows, why modifying it might solve the problem and what the possibilities are of creating a worse problem but doing that. Lastly, why is Dolphin able to recognize my ntfs partition? Doesn't it depend on the fstab file? Would installing kde instead rfesolve this issue?

    TIA

    d_hinds

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    On 2012-01-09 00:26, d hinds wrote:

    > I want to thank jdmcdaniel and caf for their suggestions. I would feel
    > more comfortable about modifying the fstab file if I knew more about
    > what that file does, how it works,


    man fstab. Or any unix/linux book.

    > what my current fstab file shows,


    You should know that, we don't. Have a look at it.

    > why modifying it might solve the problem


    Years of experience.

    > and what the possibilities are
    > of creating a worse problem but doing that.


    Close to none, unless you do something different that what you were told to do.

    > Lastly, why is Dolphin able
    > to recognize my ntfs partition?


    Go figure.

    > Doesn't it depend on the fstab file?


    Maybe.

    > Would installing kde instead rfesolve this issue?


    With nautilus? No.

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    I want to thank jdmcdaniel and caf for their suggestions. I would feel more comfortable about modifying the fstab file if I knew more about what that file does, how it works, what my current fstab file shows, why modifying it might solve the problem and what the possibilities are of creating a worse problem but doing that. Lastly, why is Dolphin able to recognize my ntfs partition? Doesn't it depend on the fstab file? Would installing kde instead rfesolve this issue?

    TIA

    d_hinds
    For more information on the fstab file, you could visit the following link:

    fstab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    When you install openSUSE, existing NTFS partition are added to your fstab file to be mounted on each restart of openSUSE. You can do the same by using the YaST / System / Partitioner and each entry by default requires that you be a root user to write to these partitions. By making the changes I suggest, you can write to NTFS partitions as a standard user.

    Thank You,
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    On 2012-01-07 03:36, d hinds wrote:
    > I installed oSUSE 12.1 Gnome 64 from the DVD Install disk and everything
    > works EXCEPT, Nautilus 3.2.1 doesn't recognize ntfs partitions


    My Nautilus does. Automatically.

    > and
    > applications like LibreOffice and Gedit don't either.


    Tried gedit, works fine.

    More details are necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmcdaniel3 View Post
    Why not modify your fstab file as I have suggested to look like this:

    Code:
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part8 swap swap defaults 0 0
    UUID=33354c82-ca82-4a78-94d6-f6c8abfaa44e / btrfs defaults 1 1
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part1 /boot ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 2
    UUID=f787327e-e137-4c67-9b8f-6eff9dc6d88f /home btrfs defaults 1 2
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part3 /windows/C ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part5 /windows/D ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0548920-part6 /windows/E ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part5 /windows/F ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part6 /windows/G ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD7500AYYS-01RCA0_WD-WCAPT0551284-part7 /windows/H ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
    debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
    usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
    devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
    Using the following command to edit the file:

    Code:
    Alt-F2: gnomesu gedit /etc/fstab
    Save and close the file and reboot and see just what you get.

    Thank You,
    This is what I get:

    If 'proc' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
    cnf proc
    dhinds@cmgx58i7:~> sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
    If 'sysfs' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
    cnf sysfs
    dhinds@cmgx58i7:~> debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
    Absolute path to 'debugfs' is '/sbin/debugfs', so running it may require superuser privileges (eg. root).
    dhinds@cmgx58i7:~> usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
    If 'usbfs' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
    cnf usbfs
    dhinds@cmgx58i7:~> devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
    If 'devpts' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:
    cnf devpts

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