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    Default ATI driver installed but no 3D

    I am new to Linux and I am trying out SUSE 12.1 on my daughters old laptop. I can't get the 3D driver to work, from what I have read I don't think I can but I may have misunderstood something while reading all the other posts.

    The laptop is based on the ATI RS690 chipset and has an integrated X1250 graphics card. My readings suggest that the last ATI driver that supported my card was 9.3 but 9.3 is not compatible with SUSE 12.1. I have run ATIUPGRADE and it has upgraded to the latest driver (11.12) but that has not improved the situation.

    The command hwinfo --gfxcard returns

    28: PCI 105.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller (VGA)
    [Created at pci.319]
    Unique ID: ul7N.I_WRgrFy2e1
    Parent ID: vSkL.Objt6VSItgC
    SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:05.0
    SysFS BusID: 0000:01:05.0
    Hardware Class: graphics card
    Model: "ATI Radeon X1200"
    Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
    Device: pci 0x791f "Radeon X1200"
    SubVendor: pci 0x107b "Gateway 2000"
    SubDevice: pci 0x0185
    Memory Range: 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff (ro,non-prefetchable)
    Memory Range: 0xfc100000-0xfc10ffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    I/O Ports: 0x9400-0x94ff (rw)
    Memory Range: 0xfc000000-0xfc0fffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
    IRQ: 17 (2 events)
    I/O Ports: 0x3c0-0x3df (rw)
    Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d0000791Fsv0000107Bsd00000185bc03sc00i00"
    Driver Info #0:
    XFree86 v4 Server Module: radeonhd
    Driver Info #1:
    XFree86 v4 Server Module: radeonhd
    3D Support: yes
    Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
    Attached to: #9 (PCI bridge)

    Primary display adapter: #28

    Finally in sysinfo: it give Radeonhd as my 2D driver but does not list a 3D driver. When I first installed 12.1 it did list a 3D Driver but now it doesn't.

    I don't want to play games or anything fancy but being able to watch iPlayer is the goal.

    Am I out of luck with this old Laptop or am I missing a key point somewhere?

    Thanks All ...

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    I suspect this is beyond my ability to help. Still, could you post the content of the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to SUSE Paste and press create and post here the URL/web address it creates?

    Are you using the boot code 'nomodeset' to boot ?

    If so, what happens when you do not use that 'nomodeset' boot code ? Can you provide the /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or it may be the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old) from a failed boot with the radeon driver ? Again, copy to SUSE Paste
    Last edited by oldcpu; 04-Jan-2012 at 00:05.

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    Quote Originally Posted by markandcath View Post
    Model: "ATI Radeon X1200"
    Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
    Device: pci 0x791f "Radeon X1200"
    It's a legacy card. Don't install the ATI fglrx driver! It won't work.
    I'm not sure you should use radeonhd with this card either. Probably, radeon would be better ... Not sure, as I don't use them.

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    Quote Originally Posted by markandcath View Post
    I have run ATIUPGRADE and it has upgraded to the latest driver (11.12) but that has not improved the situation.
    How can it be? It should cancel if it finds one of these cards:

    Code:
    ati_legacy="9500 9550 9600 9700 9800 X300 X550 X600 X700 X800 X850 X1050 X1300 X1550 X1600 X1650 X1800 X1900 Xpress X1200 X1250 X2100"
    Could you please post the output of this command:
    Code:
    lspci
    I have to say that when you know that your graphics card is not supported, atiupgrade is not going to help. In the best case, it will abort with an error message. And in the worst case, it will install a driver that you don't need.

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    See here how to uninstall the flgrx package if you installed it: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ml#post2420735

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    Log file is at SUSE Paste and if you boot without nomodeset it locks up in a matter of a few seconds after loading the desktop.

    Radeon may work better that RadeonHD but, newbie question time, how do I make it use Radeon? It selected RadeonHD all by itself :-)

    lspci returns

    00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)
    00:04.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 7914
    00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)
    00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
    00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
    00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
    00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
    00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
    00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
    00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
    00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14)
    00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
    00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
    00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
    00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
    00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
    00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
    00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
    00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
    01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
    02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
    05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    @please_try_again

    From your other thread I typed "linux-nkfv:~ # rpm -qa | grep fglrx" and the return was "fglrx_xpic_SUSE121-8.920-1.i586"

    Does this seems to suggest that the standard SUSE graphics driver is being used anyway? If so can I just remove ATIUPGRADE with

    Sorry if I am being a pain.

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    Quote Originally Posted by markandcath View Post
    @please_try_again
    From your other thread I typed "linux-nkfv:~ # rpm -qa | grep fglrx" and the return was "fglrx_xpic_SUSE121-8.920-1.i586"
    Does this seems to suggest that the standard SUSE graphics driver is being used anyway?
    The package (fglrx) is installed but the radeonhd driver is used. fglrx would not work with this graphics card. You should remove the package and atiupgrade, as described in the other thread.

    Then you should use radeon rather than radeonhd as a driver. It might be better. I didn't even know that you could use radeonhd with your graphics card (which is not a radeon HD, AFAIK).

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    OK I understand now. I have removed fglrx_xpic_SUSE121-8.920-1.i586 and ATIUPRADE because they are not compatible with my legacy hardware.

    Finally question is how do I select Radeon? It selects RadeonHD all by itself.

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    Default Re: ATI driver installed but no 3D

    Quote Originally Posted by markandcath View Post
    OK I understand now. I have removed fglrx_xpic_SUSE121-8.920-1.i586 and ATIUPRADE because they are not compatible with my legacy hardware.
    That's right.

    Quote Originally Posted by markandcath View Post
    The question then is if there is a way to get 3D working or am I just plain out of luck?
    I don't know. But wait for other people here who are more familiar with these drivers than I man. If it's possible, they will tell you. When I get a mainboard with the Legacy ATI chip (on board), I put a nvidia graphics card in it to solve the 3D problem. But you can not do that with a laptop.

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