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    Default Need to know basics of software installation

    I hope i have not made a colossal mistake switching from Windows to linux.

    I went to the install/remove software - searched for Bamshee - found it - did accept - looked like it installed.
    searched applications found it - clicked on it - the icon bounced up and down - and that was it - it never came up.
    is this why linux never has gained wide spread acceptance? where are all these so called great apps that replace windows apps and how do you get them to install?

    Yes I opened up the repositories according to the info i found at various forums - I have tumbleweed set up - at least i think i do.
    I think i am relatively competent PC wise - at least with windows - so we are not dealing with a complete idiot here - not a hacker by any means so if that is what it takes to get linux up and running in a satisfactory manner then yeah I am over my head.

    I got vitualBox loaded somehow ans re-installed windows 7 as a guest machine -it runs crappy - i did some research and before i started this (mis)adventure increased my RAM from 2 GB to 8GB so i coud run a 64 bit linux OS.

    I don't mind using the CLI - problem there is i look something up and the cmds someone swears will work don't - and it's not a matter of being in the wrong dir - i can usually figure that much out

    Sorry for the rant - but being new to linux has been frustration plus - and I can't even get a simple app to install

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    Default Re: Need to know basics of software installation

    I found the solution in another linux forum - it works

    "It's a problem with the oxygen-gtk theme for Gtk apps in KDE. The workaround is:
    menu->Applications->Configure Desktop->Application Appearance->GTK Styles and Fonts and change the style to something else, eg. 'Thin Ice'."

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    Default Re: Need to know basics of software installation

    Yes, I've seen this issue in other distros as well, most notably with GIMP in Kubuntu. In openSUSE, this 'fix' solves the same problem I had with Seahorse operating with KDE.

    BTW, once you've had the problem app running once using an alternate GTK style, you should be able to switch it back and it'll work just fine. This is a known bug that has a very easy workaround.

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    THX much - the switch back to oxygen-gtk didn't work - same issue - no big deal - I really don't care - the alternative looks just fine.

    Now on to figuring out how to mount my ipod and share my music files which are in a windows folder.

    Linux is a struggle but I am not ready to give up yet.

    I am wondering if SUSE is the right distro start out with - it seemed like the most versatile - I played with fedora and ubuntu as well as suse before I made the plunge - suse seemed like the best but i am too inexperienced to make an educated judgment and don't want to jump from distro to distro - i guess i will stick this out and see how much i learn and if i can get this working as an acceptable replacement to windows.

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    Default Re: Need to know basics of software installation

    On 12/22/2011 01:06 AM, majpooper wrote:
    > I hope i have not made a colossal mistake switching from Windows to
    > linux.


    you didn't make a colossal mistake...but, you may have made several
    mistakes depending on how you prepared your machine for the switch and
    what your expectations were....it _may_ be too late now but i'd suggest
    you review a few things, they _might_ help you see a way to increase
    your patience....because (as you have already seen) the switch takes some..

    oh, before i give you a 'short' list, let me comment on your "I think i
    am relatively competent PC wise - at least with windows - so we are not
    dealing with a complete idiot here - not a hacker by any means so if
    that is what it takes to get linux up and running in a satisfactory
    manner then yeah I am over my head.":

    first: i'm not a hacker either, but i am one hard headed person who was
    willing to accept several barriers (insufficient patience, great
    frustration, steep learning curve, etc etc etc)--well, my point is: i
    won't even TRY to do any programming, but i have been Windows-free for
    many many years (i don't have any windows programs of any kind and i
    don't even have WINE loaded on my machine)....and, you can get there
    too...but, it won't be done today..

    the first read is a great one
    http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:How_to_migrate_from_Windows which gives lots
    of good hints on now to minimize the frustration and pain...(the way i
    did it was have a fully function non-Linux box _AND_ a
    cheaper/older/used (but capable) machine on which i installed Red Hat
    (this was a long time ago)

    then, i don't know if you found our storehouse of info and docs but let
    me caution you that anything you might google across the web could turn
    up _perfect_ advice on how to do anything on a 1998 Debian system, which
    if you follow the instructions carefully and faithfully might KILL your
    system.... (i mean, would you use a Win3.11 how to from 1994 on your
    Win7 machine and expect it to work?)

    so, let me suggest you search for answers inside the opensuse.org
    universe....do that by using google's wonderful site specifier, like

    sitepensuse.org in the search string will look everywhere in our
    universe, _only_ (it won't turn up magic command line incantations for
    2002 Mandriva which may NOT work for you..)

    site:forums.opensuse.org searches only these forums, and
    site:doc.opensuse.org only the documentation section, and
    site:en.opensuse.org searches only the wiki, example:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=site%...igrate+windows
    pops up the above cited URL..

    oh, one other thing before my 'short' list: the more you know about
    Windows the harder it will be for you, _until_ you can stop assuming you
    know what is gonna happen when you do it "the Windows way"..

    and last: the helpers here LOVE to help folks who are willing to help
    themselves, and you seem to be one of those...so hang out and ask...tell
    us what you found and tried but it didn't work...

    a short list:

    hmmmmm...now i got down to here and don't know _the_ list you need so,
    any of these might be perfect for you, or a waste of you time _today_
    but maybe not tomorrow:

    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...sta-guide.html

    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ease-read.html

    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ease-read.html

    and, the top level of the how-tos:
    http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...ow-faq-forums/

    OH! and to your question "basics of software installation", here is how
    i love it:

    -click on the main menu (gecko on the panel), type in yast

    -click on YaST icon

    -give root password when asked

    -the YaST Control Center will pop up with "Software" (on the left)
    highlighted

    -on the right click on Software Management, a new window opens (which
    may take a little time as there is LOTs going on out of sight)

    -in the blank block next to the "Search" button type in what you wanna
    install and click "Search"

    -in the newly populated pane to the right will probably be a LIST of
    things, patience! don't click on everything (just because it is free,
    some new folks run out of space REAL fast), instead seek _the_ program
    you want to install and single left click the box to the left of that
    package

    -YaST will automatically 'see' everything that package needs to operate
    (called "dependencies") and make a list of what is needed and ask you to
    ok the install...if you don't ok the dependencies the program will not work)

    -then click the Accept button at the bottom right, and watch what
    happens....(again, it may take a few seconds)

    one of the GREAT things about doing it that way is that then an app is
    as easily deleted/uninstalled as it was to get it in...lets say you want
    to delete banshee, just search for it in YaST and then single right
    click the little box with a black arrow and in the popup select "Delete"
    (red x) and then accept..

    in fact, depending on what all else you have going on the quickest way
    to a smile might be to delete banshee and discover what media player is
    default installed with your KDE, GNOME, LXDE, Xfce (which?? you must
    always say that and which version of openSUSE you are running--if you
    want the best help)

    and: -=WELCOME=- new poster!!!

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    Default Re: Need to know basics of software installation

    Lots of good advice above. Just to add one thing, from personal experience: best to learn how to walk before running. You're obviously new to Linux but have already enabled Tumbleweed (or "at least I think I do"), run Windows 7 in Virtualbox, replace default applications with alternative ones, and who knows what else. Best way to feel yourself into Linux is to leave Windows untouched (dual boot), stick with the bog standard distro (no Tumbleweed) and its repositories, use the default apps until you have a good reason to install other stuff, take it step by step. Learn the various methods of installing software, how to update your system, what the repositories do. Unlearn old Windows habits.
    Apart from your own sanity and learning progression, it makes it much easier for folks around here to help.
    Günter

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    Default Re: Need to know basics of software installation

    > stick with the bog standard distro (no Tumbleweed)

    +1, right...i meant to point that out but forgot: back level from
    Tumbleweed to whatever you have (what is that: 11.3, 11.4, 12.1 ??)

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