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    Default Doubts about some repositories to add

    Hi again.
    I'm on openSUSE 12.1 x86_64, and I'm on the way to add some repos I normally use.

    First I'm trying to add those needed to install multimedia codecs, which are Packman and Libdvdcss according to installation guides in the Multimedia section. I normally checked repos' urls here (opensuse.org site), but when checking in Yast, Software repositories, Community Repositories, Packman's url is different. In openSUSE site Packman is Index of /suse/openSUSE_12.1/, while in Yast it's Index of /suse/12.1/. So did Packman change again? Which one is the correct? Is Libdvdcss repo also different? Who should I follow, openSUSE site or Yast?

    Then there are the other repos I'd like to add since I used them for updating KDE and the other apps: KDE, Mozilla, Wine. openSUSE site seems a bit outdated regarding 12.1 repos, though I already saw they already exist. However strangely they don't appear in Yast Community Repos list. Why don't they appear there? Can I use these repos to keep apps updated, or should I look into openSUSE repos?

    And finally, does Firefox 8 works well on 12.1, or does it have bugs? Also Wine repo seems to really provide last Wine version...

    Thanks for your help.

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    Default Re: Doubts about some repositories to add

    They are the same
    But use this one
    Index of /suse/openSUSE_12.1/

    Just follow the guide.

    I don't use kde-updated apps

    But use Mozilla and Wine
    Though I have synced Wine to my HD at a good working point for me. I'll keep that for the time I use 12.1

    Firefox is OK from Mozilla

    But remember - the fewer repos you can manage with, the better.
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    So is it bad to update KDE?

    Are these the right repos for 12.1?
    Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_12.1
    Index of /repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_12.1
    http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/12.1/ libdvdcss
    Because in libdvscss case I can't browse it, says "was not found" or "you don't have permission to access".

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    Default Re: Doubts about some repositories to add

    Quote Originally Posted by F_style View Post
    So is it bad to update KDE?

    Are these the right repos for 12.1?
    Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_12.1
    Index of /repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_12.1
    http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/12.1/ libdvdcss
    Because in libdvscss case I can't browse it, says "was not found" or "you don't have permission to access".
    These are correct
    And you cannot browse libdvdcss
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    Quote Originally Posted by F_style View Post
    So is it bad to update KDE?
    It depends on how important cutting edge is as opposed to stability. Everyone needs to make their own decision on this.

    In the early days of KDE4 one needed to update KDE4 to get the best stability. Now KDE4 is mature and IMHO the opposite is true, as one slightly risks instability with a new cutting edge KDE4 version. While a LOT of testing is conducted by volunteers in support of the latest KDE4, its not as large as the testing effort that goes into the KDE4 version that is nominally packaged with a new openSUSE release. Ergo with a cutting edge released KDE4, one is more at risk of an incompatibility with various applications, or even fundamental aspects such as sound, during a cutting edge KDE4 update, than one is with a stock KDE4 release with openSUSE. Each person needs to make their own assessment as to the risk. Some average to advanced users always update their KDE4 and they swear by that approach.

    Some users try to achieve a higher level of integrated stability with a more cutting edge KDE4 version (than stock) by adopting Tumbleweed. But with Tumbleweed one opens the door to more than just cutting edge KDE4 updates, as one gets more cutting edge updates across the board for many applications. And despite the efforts of a superb Tumbleweed packager and the Tumbleweed volunteer testers, again, the testing is less than with a stock openSUSE release.

    And then there are those stick in the muds like myself, who prefer stability above most other considerations, and we typically lag a new release by many months on our main PCs. With today's stable stock KDE4, installing an updated KDE4 for users like myself is never a consideration.

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    Thanks, mr. Oldcpu.
    Now I have a last doubt, for now. These are my repos right now:

    # | Alias | Nombre | Activado | Actualizar | Prioridad | Tipo | URI | Servicio
    ---+---------------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+----------+------------+-----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------
    1 | Actualizaciones-para-openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4 | Actualizaciones para openSUSE 12.1 12.1-1.4 | Si | Si | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /update/12.1 |
    2 | Nvidia | Nvidia | Si | Si | 99 | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.1/ |
    3 | Packman | Packman | Si | Si | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /suse/openSUSE_12.1/ |
    4 | Wine | Wine | Si | Si | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_12.1 |
    5 | download.opensuse.org-mozilla | Mozilla | Si | Si | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_12.1 |
    6 | openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4 | openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4 | Si | No | 99 | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TSSTcorp_DVD+_-RW_TS-L632D,/dev/sr0 |
    7 | opensuse-guide.org-repo | Libdvdcss | Si | Si | 99 | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/12.1/ |
    8 | repo-debug | openSUSE-12.1-Debug | No | Si | 99 | NONE | Index of /debug/distribution/12.1/repo/oss |
    9 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update-Debug | No | Si | 99 | NONE | Index of /debug/update/12.1 |
    10 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss | Si | Si | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss |
    11 | repo-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Oss | Si | Si | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/12.1/repo/oss |
    12 | repo-source | openSUSE-12.1-Source | No | Si | 99 | NONE | Index of /source/distribution/12.1/repo/oss |

    I had to disable Apper due to its discused "bug" (asking for root permission whenever it wants, then disappearing, then again...). Caf explained he did updates through Yast by selecting "update if there's newer version" in System repo. But if I just want to apply security updates and patches just like Apper (or whatever automatic updates are) did, which repo is the good one? Thanks.

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    Default Re: Doubts about some repositories to add

    Security updates are done with

    zypper patch

    Or use Yast > Online Update
    But both these can break some switches you have on Packman
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    Yes, that happened once on 11.3. Automatic Updates were conflicting with a Mozilla repo file (the "nspr" one). It was the first time I had an issue like that, I don't remember what I ended doing. But I guess it should be good to have the system updated someway...
    So if that's the risk, how do you bypass or workaround it? How do you keep your system well updated without using Apper?
    Thanks.

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    I use the package switcher on my various repos, doing it last on Packman
    Then I do this
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Sof...tem_update.png
    A couple of times a week
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    I guess System repo is where security updates and other Apper stuff is? Wouldn't that also bring the same risk of breaking other repos' packages?

    Also, a friend (the one who taught me Linux for first time) told me one should be very carefull when applying switch to Packman since it was a messing up of miscelaneus software, or not to do it at all. Is that why you leave this to second-to-last, just before System repo?

    Finally, would adding Kernel repo be useful? And I thought you didn't use KDE repos, or I just misunderstood...
    nth thanks.

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