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    Default howto let kmail open kdewallet without prompting for password

    I use kdewallet to store my kmail passwords of my mail account. The problem is, when pc reboots and I start kmail: it requests to open the kdewallet and prompts for the kde-wallet password. How can I disable this so that kmail opens the wallet without prompting the password.

    I mean: what use is it to store my mail password if I have to typ in another password to load the mail password. This doesn't make any sense...

    On another pc I use kdewallet to store WIFI password for knetworkmanager and here this works fine. Knetworkmanager never prompts for the kdewallet password...

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    Default Re: howto let kmail open kdewallet without prompting for password

    Quote Originally Posted by suskewiet View Post
    I use kdewallet to store my kmail passwords of my mail account. The problem is, when pc reboots and I start kmail: it requests to open the kdewallet and prompts for the kde-wallet password. How can I disable this so that kmail opens the wallet without prompting the password.

    I mean: what use is it to store my mail password if I have to typ in another password to load the mail password. This doesn't make any sense...

    On another pc I use kdewallet to store WIFI password for knetworkmanager and here this works fine. Knetworkmanager never prompts for the kdewallet password...
    Suskewiet, I may not be able to tell you how to automate the opening of a wallet, but perhaps I can help you understand why it does make sense to require kwallet to seek your authorization at least once per session:
    If you do what every security-conscious user should do, namely use different passwords for different things then you will be spared the trouble of having to memorize and enter each of your several passwords whenever a password entry mask requires one. Entering your kwallet password once per session will be sufficient and kwallet will take care of all the rest. Quite convenient, I say. I have set up my kmail to manage three different mail accounts - each with a different password. Plus knetworkmanager with a passphrase for wlan access. Without kwallet I would have to enter the wlan passphrase and then each of the three mail passwords (or store them within knetworkmanager and kmail, which I consider unsafe).
    Note that you can set kwallet to stay open until you log out. Then you need enter its password only once per session. A small inconvenience but so much more secure!
    Cheers
    Mike

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    Default Re: howto let kmail open kdewallet without prompting for password

    On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:26:03 +0530, mhenatsch
    <mhenatsch@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > suskewiet;2416488 Wrote:
    >> I use kdewallet to store my kmail passwords of my mail account. The
    >> problem is, when pc reboots and I start kmail: it requests to open the
    >> kdewallet and prompts for the kde-wallet password. How can I disable
    >> this so that kmail opens the wallet without prompting the password.
    >>
    >> I mean: what use is it to store my mail password if I have to typ in
    >> another password to load the mail password. This doesn't make any
    >> sense...
    >>
    >> On another pc I use kdewallet to store WIFI password for
    >> knetworkmanager and here this works fine. Knetworkmanager never prompts
    >> for the kdewallet password...

    >
    > Suskewiet, I may not be able to tell you how to automate the opening of
    > a wallet, but perhaps I can help you understand why it does make sense
    > to require kwallet to seek your authorization at least once per
    > session:
    > If you do what every security-conscious user should do, namely use
    > different passwords for different things then you will be spared the
    > trouble of having to memorize and enter each of your several passwords
    > whenever a password entry mask requires one. Entering your kwallet
    > password once per session will be sufficient and kwallet will take care
    > of all the rest. Quite convenient, I say. I have set up my kmail to
    > manage three different mail accounts - each with a different password.
    > Plus knetworkmanager with a passphrase for wlan access. Without kwallet
    > I would have to enter the wlan passphrase and then each of the three
    > mail passwords (or store them within knetworkmanager and kmail, which I
    > consider unsafe).
    > Note that you can set kwallet to stay open until you log out. Then you
    > need enter its password only once per session. A small inconvenience but
    > so much more secure!
    > Cheers
    > Mike
    >
    >


    that's true, but in a controlled situation like one's home can be, it may
    make sense _not_ to assign a password to kwallet. then it opens without
    prompting for one -- for anybody who uses that user account.

    --
    phani.

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    Default Re: howto let kmail open kdewallet without prompting for password

    mhenatsch wrote:

    > Note that you can set kwallet to stay open until you log out. Then you
    > need enter its password only once per session. A small inconvenience but
    > so much more secure!


    Yes, that's how it used to work for me. Just now, with Kontact open, I've
    had to type the darned password in half-a-dozen times, five for every time
    I've changed an account configuration, and once more for accessing a news-
    server. Seems to be working almost as well as how TB's master password
    doesn't.

    --
    Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
    openSUSE 12.1 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
    Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
    Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306

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